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| [00:15:00] | Beirdo: | let's see if this works |
| [00:15:00] | Delemas: | holy username from hades |
| [00:16:00] | StringBlade: | captainfun: probably not |
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| [00:16:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:16:00] | StringBlade: | but I did rebuild mine just because I wanted more control over what plugins were being used |
| [00:16:00] | Beirdo: | well, I wanted something that won't possibly conflict |
| [00:16:00] | StringBlade: | mythtv-suite installes 'em all |
| [00:16:00] | Beirdo: | too bad the bitch is in Java |
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| [00:17:00] | captainfun: | yeh |
| [00:17:00] | Beirdo: | Hmmm |
| [00:17:00] | Torq: | whay hay |
| [00:17:00] | Torq: | long time no see |
| [00:17:00] | Torq: | been busy |
| [00:18:00] | Torq: | hows mythtv? |
| [00:18:00] | Beirdo: | I'll leave it for now, but keep my eye on it, I may well move it to another spot |
| [00:18:00] | xris: | Beirdo: you're logging this channel?!?!?! ;) |
| [00:18:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:18:00] | xris: | why did your bot just tell me that? |
| [00:18:00] | captainfun: | did you end up compiling the lirc source code? |
| [00:18:00] | Beirdo: | because it does that :) |
| [00:18:00] | xris: | heh |
| [00:18:00] | StringBlade: | captainfun: yes, you have to |
| [00:18:00] | Beirdo: | http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog |
| [00:18:00] | Beirdo: | seems to work |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | too bad the stupid thing is putting it in GMT :) |
| [00:19:00] | captainfun: | did you run into any problems with irw exiting immediately? |
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| [00:19:00] | StringBlade: | yes |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | and being Java, it's using too much RAM |
| [00:19:00] | StringBlade: | before the rebuild |
| [00:20:00] | shadash: | hadees: ping :-) |
| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | damn POS |
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| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | I might move it onto my home network onto the build server |
| [00:20:00] | captainfun: | not afterwards though? |
| [00:20:00] | captainfun: | awesome |
| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | in a vserver of course |
| [00:20:00] | StringBlade: | no |
| [00:20:00] | captainfun: | if it works, i will owe you a lot of beer |
| [00:20:00] | StringBlade: | because the lirc drivers want an unpatched kernel |
| [00:20:00] | StringBlade: | I'll take Sam Adams or Guiness |
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| [00:20:00] | StringBlade: | :) |
| [00:20:00] | captainfun: | now i just have to find the source for my current kernel |
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| [00:21:00] | StringBlade: | you can get that from RedHat as an srpm |
| [00:21:00] | captainfun: | i thought i had the right one, but i have the 2.6.9 source |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | And I need to modify the crappy java code to use nickserv |
| [00:23:00] | StringBlade: | captianfun: I hope you don't need the IR blaster portion of the 150 |
| [00:23:00] | StringBlade: | 'cause LIRC doesn't support that yet :( |
| [00:23:00] | StringBlade: | only serial IR blasters/transmitters |
| [00:25:00] | captainfun: | nope |
| [00:25:00] | captainfun: | just the remote |
| [00:25:00] | captainfun: | i will be very happy if i can get the remote working |
| [00:25:00] | captainfun: | have you found anything else that isn't supported for the 150 yet? |
| [00:26:00] | StringBlade: | well, I haven't tried the radio |
| [00:26:00] | StringBlade: | supposedly there's a radio |
| [00:26:00] | StringBlade: | and the tveeprom reports a radio |
| [00:26:00] | StringBlade: | but I have no desire to use it |
| [00:26:00] | StringBlade: | I've got a receiver for that |
| [00:26:00] | Ridd1er: | anyone know if sound is transmitted via the tuner input on the PVR250? |
| [00:27:00] | abarbaccia: | Ridd1er, yes sound should come through the tuner input |
| [00:27:00] | captainfun: | yeh... |
| [00:27:00] | captainfun: | i don't need that either, so i can be happy without it |
| [00:28:00] | captainfun: | did you ever have a 250, or is the 150 your first? |
| [00:28:00] | StringBlade: | 150 is frist |
| [00:28:00] | StringBlade: | but I plan on getting another at some point |
| [00:28:00] | StringBlade: | sucks when recording and I want to watch TV |
| [00:28:00] | StringBlade: | though you can watch what you're recording |
| [00:28:00] | Ridd1er: | hmm.. well i only hear stuff using the composite inputs.. |
| [00:29:00] | StringBlade: | just not through the Watch TV route — through Watch Recordings |
| [00:29:00] | Ridd1er: | when i switch to Tuner0 i dont hear a think |
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| [00:29:00] | Ridd1er: | err thing |
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| [00:31:00] | Ajaxamander: | I've got a PVR-350 question: |
| [00:31:00] | Ajaxamander: | In .17, does "MythVideo" work over the TV-out? |
| [00:31:00] | Ajaxamander: | either composite or S-Vid? |
| [00:32:00] | Ridd1er: | it works over my composite ajax. |
| [00:32:00] | Ajaxamander: | fantastic |
| [00:32:00] | Ajaxamander: | which v.? |
| [00:32:00] | Ajaxamander: | .17? |
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| [00:32:00] | Ridd1er: | 0.16 and 0.17 |
| [00:32:00] | Ajaxamander: | I'm using .16, and my roomate is reluctant to use the 350 out |
| [00:32:00] | Ajaxamander: | er, 350's out |
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| [00:33:00] | Ridd1er: | ack. i take that back .. not sure about the 350 |
| [00:33:00] | Ajaxamander: | Riddler: is it significantly more complicated to set up to run over the tv-out? does X work too? I read in the forums that it's kind of ugly |
| [00:34:00] | Ridd1er: | i have been told it is a bit ugly but once it works it works well. |
| [00:34:00] | Ridd1er: | have you checked out the wilsonet Faq? |
| [00:34:00] | Ajaxamander: | but, playing AVI's with MythVideo *does* work? |
| [00:34:00] | Ridd1er: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [00:34:00] | Ridd1er: | yes.. it Does work.. as well as most everything else. |
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| [00:46:00] | Beirdo: | Hmmm. |
| [00:46:00] | Beirdo: | almost |
| [00:47:00] | Beirdo: | need to get it to pause before joining... |
| [00:47:00] | Beirdo: | but it'll do |
| [00:47:00] | fatmatt: | ooh java |
| [00:48:00] | fatmatt: | testing |
| [00:48:00] | xris: | Beirdo: that's getting annoying. heh. |
| [00:48:00] | Beirdo: | as soon as it identifies, it gets voiced. |
| [00:48:00] | Beirdo: | xris: you want I should remove the join message? I'd be happy to |
| [00:49:00] | fatmatt: | this is the message where it says it's logging? |
| [00:49:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [00:49:00] | Beirdo: | MythLogBot: help |
| [00:49:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:50:00] | fatmatt: | it is sort of polite to mention it |
| [00:50:00] | Beirdo: | I'll leave that, but I'll remove the spam on entry |
| [00:50:00] | Beirdo: | It will tell everyone when THEY join |
| [00:50:00] | Beirdo: | but does it need to spam the channel when it joins? |
| [00:50:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [00:51:00] | fatmatt: | whats the plan with it? leave it running? |
| [00:51:00] | Beirdo: | I don't intend to have it leaving often, that defeats the whole point |
| [00:51:00] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [00:51:00] | fatmatt: | yah |
| [00:52:00] | Beirdo: | that way we have a log people can go to when we forget what was said, etc |
| [00:52:00] | Beirdo: | I may move it off my linode, but we'll see how it fares |
| [00:53:00] | xris: | Beirdo: very cool. add #123 (or whatever ticket number) into your svn log, and trac links it directly to the ticket. close a ticket and add [123] to the message, and trac links directly to the changeset. best use of wiki parsing I've seen. :) |
| [00:53:00] | xris: | s/log/commit log/ |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I saw that. Isn't that just bitchin? |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | that just clinches it's status as cool |
| [00:53:00] | xris: | didn't know it'd do it from within the svn log. and yes, it ROCKS. |
| [00:54:00] | xris: | handy for linking tickets, too.. "spawn #34" in the ticket update message, etc |
| [00:54:00] | xris: | and you mouse over, and it gives the title of the ticket. |
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| [00:56:00] | ** Beirdo likes ** | |
| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | hey, where's he think he's going! |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | I never realized that ChanServ worked with linked nicks like that |
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| [01:00:00] | Ridd1er: | man this is annoying.. so close but yet so far away.. i still cant get the sound to play via the tuner0 input!!! |
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| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | \o/ |
| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | OK, we is being logged properly, I think |
| [01:03:00] | Ridd1er: | cool |
| [01:03:00] | Ridd1er: | now i can look at how frustrated i was.. when I finally get this figured out.. hehe |
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| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:04:00] | catphish: | evening |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | it also allows us to see common problem/solutions to add to the FAQ wiki |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | heya |
| [01:04:00] | Ridd1er: | yeah i figured thats the point.. |
| [01:04:00] | Ridd1er: | actually its a great idea. |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | just wish it weren't java |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | frigging memory hog |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | I may choose to write one on my own later using a C library |
| [01:06:00] | Ridd1er: | i have a similar bot running on my gaming channel.. its an eggdrop clone that I wrote in perl |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | no reason a simple bot like that should require 10–12MB memory |
| [01:06:00] | Ridd1er: | ack.. that is huge. |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | absolutely frigging ridiculous |
| [01:07:00] | Ridd1er: | the footprint on mine is about 3mb |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | but until I write one myself, it'll do for now |
| [01:07:00] | Ridd1er: | not only will it log all chat but its interactive with a limited ai. |
| [01:07:00] | Ridd1er: | yeah |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | this one's VERY limited :) |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | MythLogBot: help |
| [01:07:00] | Ridd1er: | hehe |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | that's about it |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | MythLogBot: tim |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | MythLogBot: time |
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| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [01:08:00] | Beirdo: | I thought I saw it in the code, but I guess I was imagining shite |
| [01:08:00] | lovely2: | how do i play back transcoded recordings |
| [01:08:00] | lovely2: | on another computer |
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| [01:10:00] | Ridd1er: | lovel2: what operating system on the "Other computer" |
| [01:10:00] | Ridd1er: | err lovely2: |
| [01:10:00] | lovely2: | mac osx |
| [01:10:00] | lovely2: | it seems that nothing understands nuv mp4 |
| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | how did you transcode? |
| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | internal? |
| [01:10:00] | lovely2: | almost everything loves nuv mpeg2 |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:11:00] | lovely2: | yes internal |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | MPEG2 ain't NUV |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | you can try running it through nuv2avi |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | but I give no guarantees |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/nuvtools |
| [01:11:00] | lovely2: | beirdo, it is when you have pvr350 |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | no it isn't |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | those files are MPEG2-PS |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | don't let a piddly extension fool you |
| [01:14:00] | Ridd1er: | hey beirdo do you know if the 4l1/2 drivers are what are used for sound? |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | the what drivers? |
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| [01:14:00] | lovely2: | Beirdo: i know that, don't worry |
| [01:14:00] | Ridd1er: | v4l1-compat.ko v4l2-common.ko |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | ah, for what card? |
| [01:14:00] | Ridd1er: | pvr 250 |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | the answer is no |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | it uses msp3400 |
| [01:15:00] | Ridd1er: | okay.. well according to the logs that has loaded okay.. |
| [01:15:00] | Ridd1er: | hmm |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | and if you use FC*, make sure to put: alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv |
| [01:15:00] | Ridd1er: | i have.. |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | K |
| [01:15:00] | Ridd1er: | thanks |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | No problem |
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| [01:17:00] | Beirdo: | that works well enough |
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| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | Man.. KPLU plays Sentimental Mood a lot |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | 3rd time today |
| [01:19:00] | Ridd1er: | the weird part is that I get sound out the composite stereo from my settop box and it works for the composite input.. |
| [01:19:00] | opello: | what's that MPEG2-PS? and what does a PVR-500 output in the nuv? |
| [01:19:00] | Beirdo: | MPEG2-PS, and it's not NUV any more than it would be text if you called it blah.txt |
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| [01:20:00] | opello: | that's why i said 'in the nuv' ... just calling it a container |
| [01:20:00] | Beirdo: | it's not a nuv |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | it's an MPEG2-PS stream captured to disk |
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| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | in a file with an arbitrary extension |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | MPEG4 captures are in a nuv container |
| [01:21:00] | mishehu: | bah. |
| [01:21:00] | catphish: | so are mjpeg just to be confusing |
| [01:22:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: ordered my system today |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, MPEG2-PS refers to a particular format of MPEG2 stream |
| [01:22:00] | mishehu: | a64 |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | cool :) |
| [01:22:00] | mishehu: | got a 3500+ w/512kb l2, and people were saying they even o/c'ed them by 200mhz, and the proc never really went above 45 deg. |
| [01:23:00] | Beirdo: | why bother overclocking them? |
| [01:23:00] | Beirdo: | they are bitchin fast |
| [01:23:00] | catphish: | i want an a64 |
| [01:23:00] | captainfun: | how do you install reiser and jfs support for fedora? |
| [01:23:00] | catphish: | but my xp3000 is nice n fast |
| [01:23:00] | captainfun: | xfs has an atrpm |
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| [01:24:00] | catphish: | captainfun, its all in the kernel i believe |
| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | catphish: the AMD64 stuff is faster and way cooler |
| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | (i.e. temperature cool) |
| [01:24:00] | catphish: | Beirdo, im sure it is, but 450UKP by the time ie upgraded everything |
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| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | my A64 3200+ has never gone above 30C, I think |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | that's likely true though :) |
| [01:25:00] | catphish: | my axp is water cooled, it needs it really |
| [01:25:00] | ** Beirdo shudders at the thought ** | |
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| [01:26:00] | Ridd1er: | those things freak me out. |
| [01:26:00] | catphish: | i'll get an a64 when i need to, but i?l get a pcix gpu while im at it |
| [01:26:00] | catphish: | and that gets expensive |
| [01:26:00] | Beirdo: | PCI-E :) |
| [01:26:00] | Beirdo: | PCI-X is something else |
| [01:26:00] | catphish: | i know what i mean lol |
| [01:26:00] | Beirdo: | fuckin confusing PCI names |
| [01:26:00] | rommer: | who says gpu too |
| [01:27:00] | catphish: | dam fools changing the gpu slot |
| [01:29:00] | captainfun: | StringBlade: are you still here? |
| [01:29:00] | Beirdo: | PCI-E is a good idea though |
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| [01:30:00] | catphish: | im sure it is |
| [01:30:00] | catphish: | is pcie compatible with pci? |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [01:30:00] | catphish: | ie never actually seen the slot |
| [01:30:00] | catphish: | now thats annoying |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | that's the whole point |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | it's supposed to be a replacement |
| [01:31:00] | catphish: | ah fair enough |
| [01:31:00] | catphish: | not like eisa |
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| [01:31:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:31:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [01:35:00] | StringBlade: | captainfun: sorry, I don't know about reiser and jfs |
| [01:35:00] | StringBlade: | I included xfs support in the kernel config |
| [01:35:00] | StringBlade: | and I use xfs |
| [01:36:00] | catphish: | it should all be in the kernel |
| [01:36:00] | catphish: | there may be tools to go with it |
| [01:36:00] | catphish: | but the actual support is in the kernel |
| [01:36:00] | catphish: | may just need a 'modprobe reiser' or something like that |
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| [01:46:00] | Beirdo: | OK, added links to the trac pages for gputrans and nuvtools :) |
| [01:49:00] | IRCMonkey: | he aisn logged in |
| [01:49:00] | Beirdo: | wha? |
| [01:49:00] | IRCMonkey: | excuse – he isn logged in |
| [01:49:00] | laga: | who? |
| [01:49:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
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| [01:50:00] | laga: | o_O |
| [01:54:00] | xris: | lol, the other Chris Petersen strikes again. This time, someone thinks I'm going to the portland myhtv users group meetup. |
| [01:54:00] | xris: | Jarod asked if he could come with me. |
| [01:54:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [01:54:00] | xris: | the chaos has started. lol |
| [01:55:00] | catphish: | lol |
| [01:55:00] | Ridd1er: | think i figured it out.. |
| [01:55:00] | rewster: | anyone here using a PVR350? Mine freezes when changing channels on watching live TV |
| [01:55:00] | catphish: | rewster: there are a lot of things that can freeze livetv |
| [01:55:00] | Ridd1er: | to get sound separated clearly between composite and tuner... you need to have the options for msp3400 set to "options msp3400 once=1 simple=1 standard=0x20" in /etc/modprobe.conf for FC2 |
| [01:56:00] | rewster: | catphish: I checked the docs and it mentioned changing pam permissions, which I've done |
| [01:56:00] | catphish: | u looking at the frontend and backend logs? |
| [01:57:00] | Beirdo: | And linked the channel logs |
| [01:57:00] | xris: | ok, I think I'm convinced now that mythtranscode is the root of all of my jumpy-xvid exports. |
| [01:58:00] | xris: | nevermind. f*cking alias I made is running transcode instead of ffmpeg. |
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| [01:58:00] | Mrgoose: | so |
| [01:58:00] | catphish: | who owns the logbot? |
| [01:58:00] | Beirdo: | I do |
| [01:58:00] | Mrgoose: | any idea why my playback seems to skip some frames when its fast action scene? |
| [01:59:00] | catphish: | Beirdo: does it do any fun stats? or just log |
| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | just logs |
| [01:59:00] | rewster: | catphish: yes, the backend isn't saying much, the frontend mentions adding two streams, then removing one of them, then "waited too long for decoder to pause" |
| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | that's all |
| [01:59:00] | catphish: | Mrgoose: i suspect it skips them in slow scenes too |
| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | xris: so go to Portland. could be fun |
| [01:59:00] | Mrgoose: | catphish: possibly, any suggestions ? |
| [01:59:00] | xris: | work day |
| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | and beat up the other Chris :) |
| [02:00:00] | xris: | lol |
| [02:00:00] | rewster: | also, it mentions suid root for realtime, I have that set on mythtv, is that for mythfrontend as well? |
| [02:00:00] | Beirdo: | bring the axe |
| [02:00:00] | ** Beirdo grins evilly ** | |
| [02:00:00] | catphish: | its the frontend that needs realtime |
| [02:00:00] | catphish: | but wouldnt worry too much about that on a modern box |
| [02:00:00] | Mrgoose: | any ideas besides suid? |
| [02:00:00] | catphish: | rewster: does it happen on all channels? |
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| [02:01:00] | catphish: | took me a week to fix my sound drivers to work with mythtv |
| [02:02:00] | rewster: | catphish: I just set this up, so basically I start it, hit "watch tv" and can't change away from the first channel |
| [02:02:00] | catphish: | u tried switching to different channels? |
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| [02:02:00] | laga: | xris: get a shirt that says "i'm the nuvexport/mythweb dude" |
| [02:02:00] | catphish: | cos ofter certain chans cause trouble |
| [02:02:00] | rewster: | also, I'm sure this is in the docs somewheres, but what's the key binding for actually activating buttons? I can hit enter and space until the cows come home and it highlights 'em but doesn't actually click |
| [02:03:00] | rewster: | catphish: ok.. when I hit "watch TV" it takes a bit to fill it's cache, then switching away from the first channel kills it. every time. |
| [02:03:00] | xris: | laga: I should give him one that says "I'm NOT ..." |
| [02:03:00] | rewster: | I get snow on the first channel, since it's not hooked up to anything yet. |
| [02:03:00] | catphish: | rewster: i have no idea sorry, try starting on a diff channel |
| [02:03:00] | catphish: | default chan is defined under the input bindings in the setup |
| [02:05:00] | rewster: | ok.. well I doubt that'll do anything right now, since I have no source hooked up. |
| [02:06:00] | catphish: | well that cant help |
| [02:06:00] | catphish: | my mythbackend wont even start if the arials not plugged in, thats a real bitch |
| [02:07:00] | catphish: | or it takes forever to start and doesnt work properly, havent looked into that much |
| [02:10:00] | laga: | xris: hehe |
| [02:10:00] | laga: | well, night. |
| [02:15:00] | catphish: | any idea why nuvexport would return 'Please specify both a starttime and chanid' |
| [02:15:00] | catphish: | when they have been specified |
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| [02:21:00] | Beirdo: | anyone in here have HDTV working? |
| [02:21:00] | Beirdo: | I'll be looking to get some short test recordings to test some stuff in nuvexport |
| [02:21:00] | ProtocoLD: | anyone know where I can find the perl modules that go with ivtv ? |
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| [02:22:00] | catphish: | i dnt actually know what hdtv is |
| [02:22:00] | ProtocoLD: | Beirdo, I bought an HD-3k card but haven't tried it yet |
| [02:23:00] | catphish: | is that a usa thing? |
| [02:23:00] | Beirdo: | high-definition |
| [02:23:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [02:23:00] | catphish: | ok |
| [02:23:00] | catphish: | is it any better than digital satelite, dvb-t etc? |
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| [02:24:00] | ProtocoLD: | yes |
| [02:25:00] | catphish: | how so? |
| [02:25:00] | ProtocoLD: | it's more then a simple digital signal |
| [02:25:00] | catphish: | just v hi res? |
| [02:25:00] | ProtocoLD: | google it |
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| [02:25:00] | catphish: | theres a plan |
| [02:26:00] | ProtocoLD: | a true High Definition signal cannot be viewed with a normal TV |
| [02:26:00] | EruditeHermit: | hi, when I try to watch live TV, I get a message saying another process is using /dev/dsp and if I do lsof | grep /dev/dsp, nothing is using it |
| [02:26:00] | EruditeHermit: | can anyone help? |
| [02:27:00] | gr8nash-home: | so fuser /dev/dsp doenst show anything either? |
| [02:27:00] | catphish: | its just high res digital |
| [02:27:00] | catphish: | not remarkable but still cool |
| [02:27:00] | Beirdo: | pretty much |
| [02:27:00] | EruditeHermit: | gr8nash-home: nope |
| [02:28:00] | catphish: | to be fair i watch digital satelite on my 32" screen and i wouldnt want the res any higher |
| [02:28:00] | catphish: | guess it maybe useful if u have a hi res projector tho |
| [02:30:00] | catphish: | can some1 explain how the command "nuvexport --mode=dvd -v_bitrate 2358 -a_bitrate 384 --quantisation 5 --confirm --starttime=20050401031900 --chanid=1025 --path=/myth/nuv2disc/nuv2disc-skin/tmp/04010319_ITV_Nightscreen_" gives the output "Please specify both a starttime and chanid." |
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| [02:31:00] | EruditeHermit: | I also get this from mythbackend console output: Capture device /dev/dsp is not reporting full duplex capability. |
| [02:31:00] | EruditeHermit: | See docs/mythtv-HOWTO, section 20.13 for more information. |
| [02:31:00] | EruditeHermit: | but 20.13 doesn't exist in the docs |
| [02:31:00] | catphish: | EruditeHermit: are u using ur sounds card's line in? |
| [02:31:00] | EruditeHermit: | catphish: yes |
| [02:32:00] | catphish: | do u know what the error means? |
| [02:32:00] | EruditeHermit: | nope |
| [02:32:00] | catphish: | ok |
| [02:32:00] | catphish: | full duplex is where u use ur sound card? input and output at the same time |
| [02:32:00] | catphish: | yours doesnt support it |
| [02:33:00] | catphish: | (or more likely your drivers are old or broken) |
| [02:33:00] | EruditeHermit: | its an SB Live 5.1 |
| [02:33:00] | EruditeHermit: | I'm quite sure it does support it |
| [02:33:00] | catphish: | then theres something up with the drivers |
| [02:33:00] | EruditeHermit: | hmm |
| [02:33:00] | EruditeHermit: | 2.6.10 ALSA |
| [02:33:00] | catphish: | set your sound device to ALSA:default |
| [02:33:00] | catphish: | instead of /dev/dsp |
| [02:33:00] | EruditeHermit: | same problem |
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| [02:33:00] | catphish: | u shouldnt get the same error |
| [02:34:00] | catphish: | cos it shouldnt be using /dev/dsp |
| [02:35:00] | EruditeHermit: | ALSA lib control.c:739:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/mixer |
| [02:35:00] | EruditeHermit: | 2005-03–31 18:35:33.528 Mixer attach error -2: No such file or directory |
| [02:35:00] | EruditeHermit: | Check Mixer Name in Setup: /dev/mixer |
| [02:35:00] | catphish: | oh |
| [02:35:00] | catphish: | in the mixer box |
| [02:35:00] | catphish: | type default |
| [02:35:00] | EruditeHermit: | ok |
| [02:35:00] | catphish: | instead of /dev/mixer |
| [02:36:00] | ProtocoLD: | catphish its just high res digital |
| [02:36:00] | ProtocoLD: | no |
| [02:36:00] | ProtocoLD: | if you saw an HDTV, you'd see the difference |
| [02:36:00] | catphish: | yes |
| [02:36:00] | catphish: | it would be higher res lol |
| [02:36:00] | catphish: | there cant be any other difference |
| [02:37:00] | ProtocoLD: | plus, techinically they can also embed other infomation within a high def signal |
| [02:37:00] | catphish: | maybe different codecs |
| [02:37:00] | ProtocoLD: | as catphish its just high res digitaland, they'll be able to almost surf TV |
| [02:37:00] | ProtocoLD: | say your watching the news, |
| [02:38:00] | ProtocoLD: | while watching it you could select an option to get more info |
| [02:38:00] | catphish: | thats just a data stream next to the video stream |
| [02:38:00] | catphish: | ie had that on my digital satelite for years |
| [02:39:00] | ** ProtocoLD shakes his head ** | |
| [02:39:00] | ProtocoLD: | forget... you don't get it |
| [02:39:00] | ProtocoLD: | google it |
| [02:39:00] | catphish: | i dont mean to insult the technology |
| [02:39:00] | EruditeHermit: | catphish: ok I now get sound, but it is really slow and teh TV plays slowly too. It is also very low pitched (everyone has a really deep voice) |
| [02:39:00] | catphish: | but u cant say its any more than a high res video stream, an ac3 audio stream and a data stream |
| [02:39:00] | catphish: | which is what it said it was when i looked it up |
| [02:39:00] | catphish: | lmao |
| [02:39:00] | ProtocoLD: | catphish, your not insulting the technology, you just don't get it and what it'll mean for TV |
| [02:40:00] | catphish: | ProtocoLD: it may just be taht we?e comparing it to different things |
| [02:40:00] | ProtocoLD: | downside, they can control your TV or equipment attached to it |
| [02:40:00] | catphish: | cos i already have high res digital satelite with interactive extra streams |
| [02:40:00] | ** ProtocoLD shakes his head again ** | |
| [02:40:00] | ProtocoLD: | forget it dude |
| [02:40:00] | catphish: | yeah my digital receiver gets reprogrammed remotely all the time |
| [02:41:00] | catphish: | will some1 else please offer an opinion about this |
| [02:41:00] | catphish: | EruditeHermit: its probably a mismatch in the sample rates |
| [02:43:00] | catphish: | EruditeHermit: http://www.nutty.tk/dmix |
| [02:43:00] | Ridd1er: | okay i was sort of correct. |
| [02:43:00] | catphish: | EruditeHermit: take that, and save it to ~/.asoundrc |
| [02:43:00] | Ridd1er: | maybe someone here has dealt with this.. |
| [02:44:00] | catphish: | EruditeHermit: that solved all my audio problems, may work for you |
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| [02:45:00] | Ridd1er: | i cant get both of my inputs on my PVR-250 to play sound unless the 2nd one (tuner0) is active at the time of the msp3400.ko module is activated. |
| [02:45:00] | catphish: | Ridd1er: sorry never played with that hardware |
| [02:46:00] | Ridd1er: | np.. thanks |
| [02:47:00] | EruditeHermit: | catphish: nope, that didn't do the trick |
| [02:48:00] | EruditeHermit: | catphish: could it be because my ALSA drivers are 1.0.6 and my ALSA libs etc are 1.0.8 |
| [02:48:00] | catphish: | im not sure |
| [02:49:00] | catphish: | u could try the update |
| [02:49:00] | catphish: | but it sounds to me like a rate mismatch |
| [02:49:00] | catphish: | http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/ . . . dule=Generic |
| [02:49:00] | catphish: | read that, i know its long and boring, but try a couple of the rate conversion examples |
| [02:49:00] | EruditeHermit: | ok |
| [02:51:00] | catphish: | its gone quiet in here |
| [02:51:00] | catphish: | i think im going to bed |
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| [02:52:00] | catphish: | nite |
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| [03:19:00] | obe1: | what bitrates does everyone find good for recording regular tv? the defaults seem high... |
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| [03:23:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody know why my screen keeps flashing (redrawing) everytime i hit a button on the remote? is htere a conflict with the IRQ addresses or something? |
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| [03:28:00] | Ridd1er: | anyone here really familiar with the msp3400 module? |
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| [03:30:00] | jemarcks: | can mythtv/FC3 be installed on a Dell desktop? |
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| [03:32:00] | abarbaccia: | sure |
| [03:34:00] | Ridd1er: | i am having a verry weird issue.. when on Input 1.. for ivtvctl i get sound.. when on 2 i dont get any |
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| [03:41:00] | awb4422: | any ubuntu/debian users in here? |
| [03:43:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [03:43:00] | awb4422: | im having a problem with my pvr-350..and getting ivtv loaded |
| [03:43:00] | awb4422: | im following the directions, but i keep getting ivtv module not found |
| [03:43:00] | Agrajag-: | no idea i dont have a pvr-350 sorry |
| [03:44:00] | awb4422: | pvr-250? |
| [03:44:00] | Agrajag-: | well maybe i might have an idea.. |
| [03:44:00] | Agrajag-: | no.. not a pvr-* |
| [03:44:00] | awb4422: | oh ok |
| [03:44:00] | Agrajag-: | what's the problem? |
| [03:44:00] | awb4422: | basically what i just told you |
| [03:44:00] | Agrajag-: | by the sounds of things you're installing a module yeah? and trying to load it: |
| [03:45:00] | awb4422: | yeah exactly |
| [03:46:00] | Agrajag-: | so.. what's the problem? does the module exist? |
| [03:46:00] | awb4422: | guess not lol |
| [03:47:00] | awb4422: | let me try one more thing, and i will let you know |
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| [03:49:00] | purplefrog: | WTF is lilo up to? |
| [03:51:00] | Agrajag-: | dunno but it's not funny |
| [03:52:00] | purplefrog: | It appears not to have much effect on firefox, other than loading some random page. |
| [03:52:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah.. well if you missed it before, he said "THE SERVERS WILL BE SHUTTING DOWN IN FIVE MINUTES AND WILL BE DOWN FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS."... |
| [03:52:00] | Agrajag-: | that's gotta be the most obvious april fools i've ever heard of |
| [03:52:00] | Agrajag-: | so stupid |
| [03:53:00] | purplefrog: | Hmm, he must be in britain. It's not yet April 1 here. |
| [03:53:00] | Agrajag-: | oh ok.. yeah i thikn lilo is in australia |
| [03:54:00] | purplefrog: | Hmm, I can't remember which side of the international date line Australia is on. |
| [03:55:00] | purplefrog: | Whoa, this is bad-ass. I'm watching Modern Marvels and they had old black&white footage of a tank sliding sideways on an icy road. |
| [03:55:00] | awb4422: | Agrajag-: when i do modprobe ivtv – I get FATAL: Module ivtv not found |
| [03:56:00] | Agrajag-: | purplefrog: im in australia.. and it's almost 2pm here, april 1st |
| [03:56:00] | awb4422: | after following this exactly: http://www.wilson-stowe.com/drupal/videocapture |
| [03:56:00] | Agrajag-: | awb4422: how did you (or think you did) install this ivtv module? |
| [03:57:00] | awb4422: | i followed that site exactly |
| [03:57:00] | awb4422: | make, make install |
| [03:59:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm.. what did the make install actually install? |
| [03:59:00] | Agrajag-: | and after you did update-modules, do you have ivtv related stuff in /etc/modules.conf ? |
| [04:00:00] | awb4422: | yes |
| [04:00:00] | awb4422: | the stuff i put in /etc/modutils/ivtv |
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| [04:02:00] | Agrajag-: | so.. are you sure the compilation worked and the make install actually installed something? |
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| [04:05:00] | awb4422: | im fairly sure, i mean im following the directions exactly |
| [04:06:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah.. but 'make' didn't give an error did it? |
| [04:06:00] | awb4422: | no |
| [04:07:00] | Agrajag-: | are you using the 0.2.0-rc1 builds? |
| [04:07:00] | Agrajag-: | try modprobe msp3400 saa7115 tuner saa7127 |
| [04:08:00] | awb4422: | im going back to 0.1.10-pre2 |
| [04:10:00] | Agrajag-: | well it clearly says on that site |
| [04:10:00] | Agrajag-: | options are no longer needed if you use the 0.2.0-rc1 builds because this option identification is down automatically. |
| [04:10:00] | awb4422: | yeah i saw that |
| [04:10:00] | Agrajag-: | so if you're not using that.. you'll need to put those options in that are commented out |
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| [04:22:00] | awb4422: | i think my problem is that i need the kernel source.... |
| [04:23:00] | awb4422: | not just kernel headers |
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| [04:27:00] | Agrajag-: | well either it compiles or it doesn't |
| [04:28:00] | Agrajag-: | if it doesn't, possibly (although i kinda doubt it) |
| [04:28:00] | Agrajag-: | if it does.. then i really dont think that's the problem |
| [04:32:00] | awb4422: | argh it was why :/ |
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| [04:44:00] | cortezdapimp: | hello everybody |
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| [04:45:00] | cortezdapimp: | can anyone recommend a bittorrent client to use on my mythbox? I'd like one with which i can drop a torrent into an SMB share from remote and have it start dling. failing that, access through a web browser. |
| [04:54:00] | kormoc: | cortezdapimp, btlaunchmany, part of the offical linux client, it watches the dir you set, and will auto start downloading when you put a file in there, and stop when you remove the torrent |
| [04:55:00] | cortezdapimp: | interesting. |
| [04:56:00] | cortezdapimp: | The other thing i'm looking for is a DAAP client |
| [04:56:00] | cortezdapimp: | (itunes streaming) |
| [04:57:00] | kormoc: | ahh, donno bout that one :) |
| [05:01:00] | cortezdapimp: | k |
| [05:01:00] | cortezdapimp: | thx |
| [05:04:00] | kormoc: | your welcome |
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| [05:07:00] | Agrajag-: | cortezdapimp: Azureus is an excellent bt client |
| [05:07:00] | kormoc: | Agrajag-, Azureus can watch a dir for new torrents and start them automatically? |
| [05:08:00] | Agrajag-: | oh.. didn't read that bit |
| [05:08:00] | Agrajag-: | dont think it would |
| [05:08:00] | kormoc: | heh, yeah, it would have been awesome if it could have :) |
| [05:09:00] | Agrajag-: | you could write a script which watches a dir and launches azureus.. but that seems like a bit of an overkill and not so nice :P |
| [05:09:00] | cortezdapimp: | i use azureus on my mac |
| [05:09:00] | cortezdapimp: | does it have a web interface or anything? |
| [05:11:00] | kormoc: | nope, but you could run btlaunchmany or btlaunchmanycurses in screen and just ssh in to check the status |
| [05:11:00] | Agrajag-: | nup |
| [05:12:00] | cortezdapimp: | hmmm... i need it to pass the family test which ssh fails |
| [05:13:00] | cortezdapimp: | You can also run the web UI with -uweb, or both together with -uconsole,web. Using the swing web plugin might work better for you, or it might not. |
| [05:13:00] | cortezdapimp: | so ya theres a web interface. cool |
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| [05:22:00] | Grooby: | sigh |
| [05:23:00] | Grooby: | can sblive pass ac3 through? |
| [05:23:00] | Shdwdrgn: | does anyone know the url that mythweather tries to pull the radar map from? The file it's saving is an html 404 page but it doesn't appear to show the address. |
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| [05:29:00] | cortezdapimp: | shdwdrgn i think its a bug in mythweather? http://knoppmythwiki.homelinux.org/index.php?page=MythWeatherFix |
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| [05:43:00] | cortezdapimp: | ok so question. i'm trying to apt-get azureus but it says it depends on sun-j2sdk1.5 (which i just installed manually since its not apt-gettable) how do i force it? |
| [05:43:00] | cortezdapimp: | dpkg -f azureus or soemthing? |
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| [06:07:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | did lots of testing tonite, narrowed down the problem with captioning on my system to mythtv itself =-/ |
| [06:07:00] | Beirdo: | blech |
| [06:07:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | yeah. |
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| [06:08:00] | Beirdo: | funny, I never really had a problem with CC that I recall back in my days using bttv |
| [06:08:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | time to dig into the VBI code |
| [06:08:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | hrm... weird =-/ |
| [06:08:00] | Beirdo: | mind you, I did't really depend on it |
| [06:08:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys – i got a situation – i have a PVR-150 and just got the remote working, but when im in myth, and i hit the button – it has to redraw the whole screen?! its really weird |
| [06:09:00] | abarbaccia: | it like flickers hard in the menus and pauses for a min, then goes ahead and does that |
| [06:09:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | Beirdo: i don't 100% depend on it (yet). but without it i have Trouble. |
| [06:10:00] | Beirdo: | Yeah, I recall that |
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| [06:13:00] | ** sarahemm{SA} meows ** | |
| [06:13:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | at least i have it narrowed down now |
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| [06:14:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | i have a feeling the FBI code isn't pretty. |
| [06:14:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | uhh... VBI. |
| [06:17:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, likely not |
| [06:18:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | think i'll start tackling that tomorrow. and start hanging out in #mythtv as well :) |
| [06:18:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [06:19:00] | Beirdo: | as long as you keep it to development stuff there, all is good |
| [06:21:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | *nods* will do. |
| [06:21:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | i'll be doing mostly-development stuff for a bit i think :P |
| [06:21:00] | Beirdo: | cool :) |
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| [06:23:00] | man_in_shack: | what's the difference between hdtv and dvb? |
| [06:24:00] | Beirdo: | that's better |
| [06:24:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [06:24:00] | man_in_shack: | Beirdo, now answer my damn question :P |
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| [06:24:00] | Beirdo: | Hmm, they are completely different systems |
| [06:24:00] | man_in_shack: | that doesn't help |
| [06:25:00] | Beirdo: | there is google |
| [06:25:00] | man_in_shack: | there is also people to talk to |
| [06:25:00] | Beirdo: | what's the difference between apples and oranges? |
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| [06:26:00] | Beirdo: | HDTV generally refers to ATSC |
| [06:26:00] | Beirdo: | which is a protocol used in North America for over-the-air |
| [06:26:00] | man_in_shack: | i ask cos there are heaps of cards around labeled "hdtv dvb-t capture card" |
| [06:26:00] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [06:26:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | hdtv being the higher resolutions. |
| [06:26:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | and/or non-interlaced video |
| [06:27:00] | Beirdo: | dvb-t is used in Europe and Australia |
| [06:27:00] | Beirdo: | atsc is used in North America |
| [06:27:00] | Beirdo: | for basically the same thing... over-the-air high resolution digital TV |
| [06:27:00] | man_in_shack: | ok |
| [06:27:00] | Beirdo: | DVB also has -S for satellite, -C for cable |
| [06:27:00] | man_in_shack: | yeah |
| [06:28:00] | Beirdo: | not all DVB is high-definition |
| [06:28:00] | man_in_shack: | hmm |
| [06:28:00] | Beirdo: | it depends on what's being transmitted (duh) :) |
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| [06:38:00] | slePP: | beirdo... 23 minutes |
| [06:38:00] | slePP: | :> |
| [06:38:00] | slePP: | (and myth won't stop _crashing_... bleh) |
| [06:38:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | until? |
| [06:38:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [06:38:00] | slePP: | until the movie giveaway is drawn |
| [06:38:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | ahh |
| [06:40:00] | man_in_shack: | anyone on debian here? |
| [06:41:00] | man_in_shack: | i'm trying to install mythtv following the instructions for debian |
| [06:42:00] | man_in_shack: | apt-get build-dep mythtv << complains about liblame-dev not existing, when it's replaced by liblame0 |
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| [06:45:00] | man_in_shack: | b;eh |
| [06:45:00] | man_in_shack: | *bleh |
| [06:46:00] | man_in_shack: | now i've apt-get removed liblame0 it's complaing liblame-dev can't be found |
| [06:50:00] | slePP: | beirdo's stalking me now.. |
| [06:51:00] | ** slePP should've learned not to give out his phone number on the internet to strangers :> ** | |
| [06:51:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | lol |
| [06:51:00] | slePP: | well, i guess it's not stalking if he doesn't call back. :P |
| [06:52:00] | man_in_shack: | ok, now i found an apt repos that has lame |
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| [06:53:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | hihi solar_angel:) |
| [06:53:00] | solar_angel: | heya sarah. |
| [06:54:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | solar_angel: s'quiet right now.. there's often a lot of mythy talk here tho :) |
| [06:54:00] | solar_angel: | cool |
| [06:54:00] | solar_angel: | i like myth. |
| [06:54:00] | solar_angel: | use it every day. |
| [06:54:00] | solar_angel: | but you knew that. |
| [06:54:00] | man_in_shack: | ok guys thanks for all the help getting the damn thing to build-dep |
| [06:54:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | lol... yes, i'm aware ;) |
| [06:54:00] | defaultro: | good evening guys, any ideas why caption doesn't show |
| [06:55:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | defaultro: are you using a PVR-xxx, or a bttv card? |
| [06:55:00] | defaultro: | air2pc |
| [06:55:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | what driver? |
| [06:55:00] | defaultro: | nxt2002 |
| [06:55:00] | defaultro: | dvb |
| [06:55:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | hrm. |
| [06:55:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | 't' toggles closed captioning |
| [06:56:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | i'm dealing with issues on my system of them being corrupted, that may be a myth-bttv issue tho. |
| [06:56:00] | defaultro: | yup, i do that but still doesn't |
| [06:56:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | the driver may not support it. |
| [06:56:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [06:56:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | ivtv (for the PVR-x50 cards) doesn't. |
| [06:56:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | (yet. i'll fix that once i get one) |
| [06:56:00] | ** solar_angel laughs ** | |
| [06:56:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [06:56:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | what solar? |
| [06:56:00] | solar_angel: | oh nothing |
| [06:57:00] | solar_angel: | just you, that's all :P |
| [06:57:00] | defaultro: | so you are the ivtv coder? |
| [06:57:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | not yet. |
| [06:57:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | i've never touched the code |
| [06:57:00] | solar_angel: | no... she's just a somewhat HoH-person who uses MythTV. |
| [06:57:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | i'm just someone who likes/needs closed captioning, and i want to be able to use a PVR card. |
| [06:57:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | and i code... so i figure i'll get a card and work on the VBI/captioning support. |
| [06:58:00] | solar_angel: | and hey, if you get into a sticky spot, i'm always around... i'm an OS coder :P |
| [06:58:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | *nodnods* |
| [07:00:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:00:00] | Beirdo: | not stalking... |
| [07:01:00] | solar_angel: | stalking? |
| [07:01:00] | ** sarahemm{SA} is going to wait until the PVR-500 is mostly stable, then pick one up and start working in the CC Support. ** | |
| [07:03:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [07:03:00] | Beirdo: | solar_angel: it was a response to slePP earlier |
| [07:03:00] | solar_angel: | oh oakey |
| [07:04:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | nice? |
| [07:04:00] | Beirdo: | you're gonna work on PVR-500 CC support eventually. that's nice. |
| [07:04:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [07:04:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | ahh :) |
| [07:04:00] | Rince: | pvr-500? |
| [07:05:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | well, i won't switch to a PVR-card until it has CC support, so instead of waiting forever (as it seems few people use it), i'll write it myself. |
| [07:05:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | PVR-500 is a dual-tuner 150 basically |
| [07:05:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | two inputs |
| [07:05:00] | Rince: | ah |
| [07:05:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | *nods* our backend here only has one PCI slot so having two encoders in it would be nice. |
| [07:06:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [07:06:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | i've never touched the ivtv code, so it'll be a challenge :) |
| [07:06:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | but i don't want to stick with bttv cards forever, so.. *Shrug* |
| [07:06:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | challenges are good. |
| [07:06:00] | Rince: | well – I'd love to have one card for dbv-c and analog signal... |
| [07:06:00] | ** Beirdo grumbles. Where are my air2pc cards, dammit?! ** | |
| [07:06:00] | Rince: | but that won't happen |
| [07:07:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [07:07:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | dvb-c is encrypted here... don't think you can get around that yet. |
| [07:07:00] | Rince: | sarahemm{SA}: some channels here too. But not all of them |
| [07:07:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | we're analog cable so far. two analog tuners would be nice. |
| [07:07:00] | Beirdo: | I think most of ours isn't dvb-c either |
| [07:07:00] | Rince: | and a lot of culture-channels are only on dbv-c |
| [07:07:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | Beirdo: oh.. hrm, i thought it was. dunno. |
| [07:08:00] | Beirdo: | dopester would have a better idea... and I'm tired :) |
| [07:08:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | heh |
| [07:08:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | <-- going onto night shifts in a couple days so up well into the night right now |
| [07:08:00] | obe1: | anybody in here have a pvr250 recording to ata/133 or less drive and is able to watch recordings while recording something else? if my pvr is recording and i put any other disk i/o, ivtv dumps with DMA errors, i tried 0.2.0x and i am using 0.3.2p now.. |
| [07:08:00] | Beirdo: | I've been up till 4am three days in a row |
| [07:09:00] | Beirdo: | and into work at 10–10:30 |
| [07:09:00] | Beirdo: | so... :) |
| [07:09:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | ahh |
| [07:09:00] | Beirdo: | I'm usually good to 2–3am |
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| [07:10:00] | solar_angel: | obe1 – you just need enough RAM in the machine. |
| [07:10:00] | obe1: | haha i have 1024MB |
| [07:10:00] | solar_angel: | that's odd. |
| [07:11:00] | Beirdo: | obe1: you need to make sure DMA is on for the drive |
| [07:11:00] | obe1: | if i leave commerical flaggin on, that kills it in about 60 seconds of sustained i/o |
| [07:11:00] | obe1: | it is |
| [07:11:00] | solar_angel: | oh ya, that's true, keep DMA on. |
| [07:12:00] | obe1: | DMA is on, i played with all the options of hdparm |
| [07:12:00] | obe1: | i tried increasing the readahead, etc |
| [07:12:00] | solar_angel: | all of them? that's dangerous. |
| [07:12:00] | obe1: | 2 ata/133 in a LVM2 volume, nothing but myth uses the drives |
| [07:12:00] | obe1: | no i played with the safe options |
| [07:13:00] | obe1: | -u1, -c3, -m16, -d1 is my current settings |
| [07:13:00] | ** Beirdo chuckles ** | |
| [07:13:00] | obe1: | the drives are also on a separate promise ata bus |
| [07:14:00] | Beirdo: | sarahemm{SA}: you are chatting with solar_angel online? You at work, I assume? |
| [07:14:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | i'm at home |
| [07:14:00] | obe1: | one of those onboard raid controllers, used as a regular drives |
| [07:14:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | solar is sitting next to me :) |
| [07:14:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [07:14:00] | Beirdo: | silly geeks :) |
| [07:14:00] | solar_angel: | heh |
| [07:14:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | hehee :) |
| [07:14:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | *nods* |
| [07:14:00] | solar_angel: | well, we're watching TV. |
| [07:14:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | easier than trying to communicate out loud sometimes ;) |
| [07:14:00] | Doona-Grl: | :) |
| [07:15:00] | Beirdo: | good point |
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| [07:15:00] | Beirdo: | still a bit funny in a geeky way :) |
| [07:15:00] | ** sarahemm{SA} nodnodnods :) ** | |
| [07:15:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | <-- somewhat of a geek |
| [07:16:00] | solar_angel: | heh |
| [07:18:00] | Beirdo: | Of course, I'm on IRC almost all day, even while working, so I'm not one to talk about being a geek |
| [07:18:00] | Beirdo: | wow. |
| [07:18:00] | ** sarahemm{SA} doesn't IRC *all* day at work... sometimes on night shifts i do, but day shifts are too busy. IM only. ** | |
| [07:18:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | and inter-NOC IRC :) |
| [07:18:00] | Beirdo: | I just realized something. |
| [07:18:00] | Beirdo: | three girls in the channel.. |
| [07:18:00] | Beirdo: | and yet STILL people are being... mature and stuff |
| [07:19:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | lol |
| [07:19:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | true... |
| [07:19:00] | Beirdo: | or the immature arseholes are asleep |
| [07:19:00] | Cardoe: | didn't know you could read sex based on nicks |
| [07:19:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:19:00] | solar_angel: | heh |
| [07:19:00] | Beirdo: | then there's Cardoe |
| [07:19:00] | Cardoe: | what? |
| [07:19:00] | Beirdo: | heya, Cardoe |
| [07:19:00] | Cardoe: | I meant sex like male or female. |
| [07:19:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [07:19:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, well... I'm not wrong, I bet |
| [07:20:00] | Beirdo: | Hey look.. That 70s Show |
| [07:20:00] | Beirdo: | that will do |
| [07:20:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | it's hard to determine gender from nicks |
| [07:20:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | err... except mine :) |
| [07:20:00] | Beirdo: | and Doona-Grl |
| [07:20:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [07:21:00] | kormoc: | Sure Mr. Sara Hemm :P |
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| [07:21:00] | Beirdo: | solar_angel is a dead giveaway from whois |
| [07:21:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | oh, her too :) |
| [07:21:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | kormoc: Sarah Emm :P |
| [07:21:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | i used to have caps, but... not anymore ;) |
| [07:21:00] | lovely2: | what is the point of being able to add new Recording Profile Groups ? |
| [07:21:00] | kormoc: | huh |
| [07:21:00] | ** sarahemm{SA} is sarah emm not sara hemm ** | |
| [07:21:00] | kormoc: | isn't Sara a name too. |
| [07:21:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | yes, it is |
| [07:21:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | but not my name :) |
| [07:21:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | <-- sarah emm |
| [07:21:00] | Beirdo: | lovely2: maybe to use more profile groups |
| [07:21:00] | solar_angel: | yep, sara is a perfectly sensible female name too. see, her name is a dead giveaway. |
| [07:22:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [07:22:00] | kormoc: | kk, I was just wondering if my mind went really wonky there, tis all ) |
| [07:22:00] | lovely2: | Beirdo: how would that work |
| [07:22:00] | Beirdo: | I have a cousin named Sarah. |
| [07:22:00] | lovely2: | i mean how can i select to record something that isn't in the profile group for my hardware ? |
| [07:22:00] | Beirdo: | lovely2: when you schedule, you tell it what group to pu it in |
| [07:22:00] | Beirdo: | hmm? |
| [07:22:00] | lovely2: | on mythweb you can only tell it which profile to put it in |
| [07:22:00] | lovely2: | not which group |
| [07:23:00] | Beirdo: | I don't bother with groups anyways |
| [07:24:00] | ** Beirdo chuckles again ** | |
| [07:24:00] | Beirdo: | at work, we use IRC for our group. |
| [07:25:00] | Beirdo: | and we all sit within 15 feet of each other |
| [07:25:00] | Beirdo: | geeEEEK |
| [07:25:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | hehe |
| [07:25:00] | Beirdo: | mind you, we *are* the sysadmins |
| [07:25:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | we use it for inter-NOC communication (we have datacentres in multiple cities) |
| [07:25:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:25:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, tha's a perfect use for it |
| [07:25:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | but we also use it within the NOC now as my hearing is deterioriating to where text is much better. |
| [07:26:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | especially in a noisy environment like the NOC. |
| [07:26:00] | Beirdo: | Oh, we have a guy in Montreal on the channel, and one in Vancouver, that's true |
| [07:26:00] | Beirdo: | That's gotta suck. |
| [07:27:00] | solar_angel: | just one more reason to irc with someone sitting next to you |
| [07:27:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | yep :) |
| [07:27:00] | Beirdo: | that's true |
| [07:27:00] | lovely2: | Beirdo: your thinking of two different types of groups |
| [07:27:00] | Beirdo: | typing's easier than sign language anyways |
| [07:27:00] | solar_angel: | well, we're doing pretty well towards learning sign language. |
| [07:27:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | Beirdo: we sign when not around PCs... heh :) we're still learning tho. |
| [07:27:00] | Beirdo: | which if hearing deteriorates far enough, becomes the only choice |
| [07:27:00] | solar_angel: | typing is still faster at the moment though |
| [07:28:00] | solar_angel: | nah, not really. |
| [07:28:00] | lovely2: | the group where something is stored is different from what recording profile group it will be recorded with |
| [07:28:00] | solar_angel: | plenty of ways to improve hearing, short of actual destruction of the auditory nerve. |
| [07:28:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [07:28:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | solar_angel: CIs are an option if it gets Really Bad in 20 or 30 years. *shrug* |
| [07:28:00] | Beirdo: | and there is always lip reading if the talker pronounces, etc. |
| [07:28:00] | solar_angel: | sarahemm{SA} – *nods* yes, i know. |
| [07:28:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | Beirdo: s'how i get by now. :) |
| [07:29:00] | lovely2: | what is the point of being able to add new Recording Profile Groups ? |
| [07:29:00] | Beirdo: | I worked a summer with a guy that was completely deaf |
| [07:29:00] | solar_angel: | sarahemm{SA} – yes, but you're still pre-amplification. you'll do fine when you get your first fitting. |
| [07:29:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | solar_angel: hopefully. |
| [07:29:00] | Beirdo: | lovely2: to have several recording groups. |
| [07:30:00] | Beirdo: | lets say, a group for you, a group for your S.O. |
| [07:30:00] | lovely2: | Beirdo: you can't use several recording PROFILE groups |
| [07:30:00] | lovely2: | Beirdo: BECAUSE THERE IS NO WHERE TO PICK ONE |
| [07:30:00] | Beirdo: | Profile groups |
| [07:30:00] | Beirdo: | duh |
| [07:30:00] | Beirdo: | like MPEG-2 Profiles |
| [07:30:00] | Beirdo: | etc? |
| [07:30:00] | lovely2: | yes !!!! |
| [07:31:00] | lovely2: | u see the Custom Group Add, what is the point if you can't pick it any where |
| [07:31:00] | Beirdo: | there's a separate set of profiles for every type of cards |
| [07:31:00] | Beirdo: | past that, who knows |
| [07:31:00] | lovely2: | and can i add new profiles to a group some how ? |
| [07:31:00] | stoffel: | dead code? |
| [07:31:00] | Beirdo: | I'm thinking it's code that never got finished or is dead code |
| [07:32:00] | Beirdo: | but I dunno for sure |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | hey beirdo, you are subscribed to the -dev mail list, arent you? |
| [07:32:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [07:32:00] | Beirdo: | and haven't read it for a while, been too busy. Why? |
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| [07:32:00] | lovely2: | Beirdo: what talking all day in here |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | can you forward a script to contrib for me? |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: ^^^ |
| [07:32:00] | c3p0: | hey mchou, good morning |
| [07:33:00] | lovely2: | Is there any way to add a new profile to a group |
| [07:33:00] | c3p0: | does air2pc support closed captions? |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | hey c3p0 |
| [07:33:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: why not just subscribe yourself? |
| [07:33:00] | c3p0: | wait |
| [07:33:00] | c3p0: | let me change my nick |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | hehe, never tried. |
| [07:33:00] | c3p0 is now known as defaultr0 | |
| [07:33:00] | defaultr0: | oh ok |
| [07:33:00] | Beirdo: | lovely2: just go try it or something :) |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: nah, last thing I need is subscribe to another mail list. |
| [07:34:00] | Beirdo: | so subscribe and set it to nomail |
| [07:34:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | heh, we need more people who use captions. maybe more dev work would get done on it then :) |
| [07:34:00] | ** sarahemm{SA} will try to help that. ** | |
| [07:34:00] | Beirdo: | duh |
| [07:34:00] | defaultr0: | mchou, i saw my friend's gbpvr this afternoon. It's nice also |
| [07:34:00] | Beirdo: | sarahemm{SA}: you're the perfect person to care enough to get it working :) |
| [07:34:00] | lovely2: | Beirdo: i have tried, but see the lack of know which key to hit, really makes it hard |
| [07:34:00] | mchou: | gbpvr is a windows myth wannabe. |
| [07:34:00] | defaultr0: | yep |
| [07:35:00] | Beirdo: | lovely2: try insert maybe? |
| [07:35:00] | defaultr0: | he's not good in linux |
| [07:35:00] | defaultr0: | but that gbpvr has tons of features |
| [07:35:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | Beirdo: hehee :) i use captioning, i code, i've coded kernel drivers before.. :) |
| [07:35:00] | mchou: | defaultr0: wouldn't suprise me if gbpvr stole code from mythtv :) |
| [07:35:00] | defaultr0: | ah |
| [07:35:00] | defaultr0: | :D |
| [07:35:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: I'd almost guarantee it |
| [07:35:00] | Beirdo: | sarahemm{SA}: yup :) |
| [07:35:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: yeah.... |
| [07:36:00] | lovely2: | hey sarahemm what is with the {SA} after your name ? |
| [07:36:00] | lovely2: | dam mac keyboard |
| [07:36:00] | mchou: | sys admin? |
| [07:36:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | {} is a collar, SA are solar_angel's initials :) |
| [07:36:00] | Cardoe: | stands for super awesome |
| [07:36:00] | lovely2: | :) |
| [07:36:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [07:36:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | means i belong to Her. |
| [07:36:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: subscribe to -dev and set it nomail |
| [07:36:00] | Beirdo: | then you can post all you want |
| [07:36:00] | xris: | new nuvexport cvs for whoever wants it. |
| [07:36:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: maybe.... |
| [07:36:00] | defaultr0: | btw, i bought a cheap wireless rf based keyboard in meijers, it can only go as far as 5 ft :( |
| [07:37:00] | defaultr0: | i'm returning it tomorrow :) |
| [07:37:00] | Cardoe: | xris: aspect ratio fix? |
| [07:37:00] | mchou: | defaultr0: told you to get IR, you dont believe me. |
| [07:37:00] | Beirdo: | sarahemm{SA}: I can think of other things SA could stand for, but we're being mature and stuff |
| [07:37:00] | xris: | Cardoe: not yet |
| [07:37:00] | xris: | some denoise/deinterlace adjustments. |
| [07:37:00] | defaultr0: | you did? |
| [07:37:00] | Beirdo: | Cardoe: no, I'm still working on it, be patient |
| [07:37:00] | xris: | Beirdo's still working on the AR stuff |
| [07:37:00] | Cardoe: | I'm not |
| [07:37:00] | mchou: | defaultr0: sure I did. |
| [07:37:00] | defaultr0: | mchou, ok, i couldnt recall |
| [07:38:00] | defaultr0: | so ir is better than rf? I thought, rf was better than ir |
| [07:38:00] | solar_angel: | heh |
| [07:38:00] | defaultr0: | any brands that you can recommend? |
| [07:38:00] | mchou: | defaultr0: https://www.digitalconnection.com/store/Produ . . . CAT=KEYBOARD |
| [07:38:00] | defaultr0: | cool |
| [07:39:00] | mchou: | defaultr0: click on the pic and tell me if RF can do all that :) |
| [07:39:00] | Beirdo: | the aspect ratio stuff is mostly there, but needs to be tested still (for ffmpeg) |
| [07:39:00] | defaultr0: | wow, that's 23 ft :) |
| [07:39:00] | Cardoe: | new nuvexport cvs in Gentoo |
| [07:39:00] | Beirdo: | it will letterbox/pillarbox the video, etc |
| [07:40:00] | Cardoe: | what was that 2 min delay time? |
| [07:40:00] | mchou: | defaultr0: "Best of all, the commands from the Airboard can be taught to a learning remote!" |
| [07:40:00] | Beirdo: | and properly set the aspect ratio in MPEG firles |
| [07:40:00] | defaultr0: | it's nice, but looks like I will have a hard time using it with Unreal Tournament |
| [07:40:00] | Beirdo: | files rather |
| [07:40:00] | defaultr0: | ok |
| [07:40:00] | mchou: | defaultr0: huh??? |
| [07:40:00] | ** Cardoe is awesome. ** | |
| [07:40:00] | Beirdo: | but I need to test it, and I'm outta steam for tonight :) |
| [07:40:00] | defaultr0: | i will also be using it for games :) |
| [07:40:00] | mchou: | defaultr0: screw that. |
| [07:41:00] | defaultr0: | ok |
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| [07:41:00] | Beirdo: | and my damn phone line echos when I call out. |
| [07:41:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: CA gov't spying on you |
| [07:41:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [07:41:00] | mchou: | defaultr0: you wanna play games get a gyration. |
| [07:41:00] | Beirdo: | crappy x100p tuning |
| [07:41:00] | defaultr0: | yeah, i saw that in pcalcheymy |
| [07:41:00] | defaultr0: | it's about $99 |
| [07:42:00] | defaultr0: | is it really a cool keyboard? |
| [07:42:00] | mchou: | personally, why not just get an rf gamepad? |
| [07:42:00] | mchou: | $100 is spendy. |
| [07:42:00] | Beirdo: | Cardoe: you gonna send an htpasswd line at some point? :) |
| [07:42:00] | mchou: | rf gamepad=$20. |
| [07:42:00] | ** defaultr0 thinks that he should start playing around with burning recordings to a dvd ** | |
| [07:42:00] | defaultr0: | ok |
| [07:42:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: sorry |
| [07:43:00] | Beirdo: | hehe :) |
| [07:43:00] | Cardoe: | that work |
| [07:43:00] | Cardoe: | ? |
| [07:43:00] | defaultr0: | mchou, am not familiar with rf gamepad, let me see google |
| [07:44:00] | weeti: | hmmh, anyone can help with dvb-problems? the autotuner finds the channels (the hardware is woking as I can watch the broadcasts with mplayer). mythsetup doesn't put the records in dvb_channel nor dvb_pids, but does set the channel-table coorectly. I've inserted stuff into dvb_pids and dvb_channel manually (for one channel (nro.1 which is set as default in mythsetup)) When I try to watch the tv it gives blank screen for a while and returns to menu. mythbackend |
| [07:44:00] | weeti: | once. and no other warnings/errors (debug is set to all) |
| [07:45:00] | mchou: | defaultr0: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/de . . . NTENTID=9069 |
| [07:45:00] | Beirdo: | yep, that should work fine |
| [07:45:00] | mchou: | defaultr0: it's a playstation2 rip-off. |
| [07:45:00] | defaultr0: | yeah, i actually have the ps2 to usb |
| [07:45:00] | defaultr0: | lol |
| [07:45:00] | mchou: | defaultr0: dunno how well it works. |
| [07:45:00] | defaultr0: | it works |
| [07:46:00] | defaultr0: | however, for UT2004, keyboard and mouse is needed |
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| [07:46:00] | mchou: | ps2 to usb made by who? |
| [07:46:00] | defaultr0: | radioshack |
| [07:46:00] | defaultr0: | i got it for $10 |
| [07:46:00] | defaultr0: | works well |
| [07:46:00] | mchou: | that's a piece of crap. |
| [07:46:00] | defaultr0: | it works though |
| [07:46:00] | defaultro (~def@64-135-220-60.FoxValley.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [07:46:00] | defaultr0: | bam |
| [07:46:00] | defaultr0 is now known as defaultro | |
| [07:46:00] | mchou: | latency is unbearable. |
| [07:47:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | I dont think you need kb for unreal. |
| [07:47:00] | defaultro: | i think, mouse |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | all actions can be mapped to gamepad. |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | mouse?? |
| [07:47:00] | defaultro: | but not the mouse for looking up and down |
| [07:48:00] | Ivan_Alias``: | Does anyone have any clue what this is thats filling up my messages log?? kernel: bt878(0): irq FDSR risc_pc=1e9b5008 |
| [07:48:00] | mchou: | there are two joysticks on gamepad :) |
| [07:48:00] | defaultro: | and for pointing |
| [07:48:00] | defaultro: | that's where i had a hardtime pointing the gun |
| [07:48:00] | defaultro: | it's fixed when using the gamepad |
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| [07:48:00] | Beirdo: | Ivan_Alias``: did you put in the debug option for that module? |
| [07:48:00] | mchou: | defaultro: no way. you can remap it. |
| [07:49:00] | defaultro: | hmmm, i may have to look at it again |
| [07:49:00] | defaultro: | that's cool then |
| [07:49:00] | defaultro: | no need to buy it |
| [07:49:00] | Ivan_Alias``: | Beirdo, I'm not sure, Im using the standard kernel for fedora core 3 and a DVB module for my DVB-T card |
| [07:49:00] | defaultro: | do you recall which part it is |
| [07:49:00] | Beirdo: | look in your modprobe.conf |
| [07:50:00] | mchou: | nope, no longer play games. |
| [07:50:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [07:50:00] | mchou: | but you can map thru xevent too. |
| [07:50:00] | Ivan_Alias``: | ok, I have it, what am I looking for? |
| [07:50:00] | Beirdo: | look for the module that was spewing the error |
| [07:50:00] | mchou: | or if you're using lame windows you can remap thru control panel. |
| [07:50:00] | Beirdo: | or debug print, rather |
| [07:51:00] | defaultro: | im using linux version :) |
| [07:51:00] | mchou: | then xevent should work. |
| [07:51:00] | defaultro: | hmmm, i havent tried that |
| [07:51:00] | defaultro: | so what's the purpose of xevent |
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| [07:52:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | ok, we go sleepies |
| [07:52:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | nini! |
| [07:54:00] | Beirdo: | night :) |
| [07:54:00] | Beirdo: | defaultro: man xevent might help |
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| [07:56:00] | mchou: | defaultro: is meijers a grocery store or what? |
| [07:56:00] | mchou: | or is it more like "Target?" |
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| [07:56:00] | defaultro: | im, sorry, i was executing a stored procedure |
| [07:56:00] | defaultro: | it's a store |
| [07:57:00] | defaultro: | grocery :) |
| [07:57:00] | mchou: | that just happens to sell computers? |
| [07:57:00] | mchou: | more like walmart? :) |
| [07:57:00] | defaultro: | i just accompanied my wife and doesn't know what to do a while ago :) |
| [07:57:00] | man_in_shack: | this is getting interesting |
| [07:57:00] | defaultro: | it was also 11pm |
| [07:58:00] | defaultro: | so i went to the kinda like a computer area, and saw that keyboard |
| [07:58:00] | defaultro: | since it was cheap, i took it but prepared myself that I will return it if it doesnt work well |
| [07:58:00] | mchou: | meijers apparently has good deals on computers. |
| [07:58:00] | mchou: | nice ones. |
| [07:58:00] | defaultro: | it's a bit higher that walmart |
| [07:58:00] | mchou: | only heard thru fatwallet and the like. |
| [07:59:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [07:59:00] | defaultro: | meijers is not good in computers |
| [07:59:00] | defaultro: | neither walmart |
| [07:59:00] | defaultro: | but sometimes, they carry nice brands like creative labs |
| [07:59:00] | defaultro: | i was actually looking for the $29 audigy but didn't see it |
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| [08:00:00] | mchou: | really? I thought meijers had some really top of the line computers. Not the shit walmart carries. |
| [08:00:00] | defaultro: | no |
| [08:00:00] | defaultro: | both of them are crap |
| [08:00:00] | mchou: | last thxgiving they had some setups with NVIDIA 6800, iirc..... |
| [08:01:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [08:01:00] | mchou: | anyway, they were inexpensive.... |
| [08:01:00] | defaultro: | prolly not the meijers here :) |
| [08:01:00] | defaultro: | they have nice setup though in ps2 and xbox |
| [08:02:00] | mchou: | defaultro: the ones in Chicago? |
| [08:02:00] | defaultro: | suburb |
| [08:02:00] | defaultro: | we're about 40 miles from chicago |
| [08:02:00] | mchou: | how far are you from frys? :) |
| [08:03:00] | fryfrog: | from me??? |
| [08:03:00] | mchou: | frys you should be able to get deals too :) |
| [08:03:00] | fryfrog: | i have no deals, don't come to me! |
| [08:04:00] | defaultro: | 50 miles |
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| [08:04:00] | mchou: | I'm sorely tempted by those frys CPU/mobo combos :) |
| [08:04:00] | man_in_shack: | ok, now i've got another problem |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | especially the "one-day" sales. |
| [08:04:00] | man_in_shack: | mythtv-database isn't configuring properly |
| [08:05:00] | man_in_shack: | it's asking me for a user and password which i don't think i've set up |
| [08:05:00] | defaultro: | k |
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| [08:07:00] | fryfrog: | man_in_shack: so set it up! |
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| [08:10:00] | man_in_shack: | fryfrog, i don't know how |
| [08:10:00] | man_in_shack: | and README.Debian doesn't help |
| [08:10:00] | man_in_shack: | fucking mysql |
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| [08:12:00] | man_in_shack: | i just want to get mythtv running. why do i need to set up a mysql server too? |
| [08:12:00] | mchou: | lol. |
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| [08:13:00] | Beirdo: | because myth uses mysql |
| [08:13:00] | Beirdo: | what a dumb question |
| [08:13:00] | man_in_shack: | .,. |
| [08:13:00] | man_in_shack: | why does it need to? |
| [08:14:00] | Beirdo: | because it does |
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| [08:14:00] | stoffel: | to make setup harder |
| [08:14:00] | man_in_shack: | bah |
| [08:14:00] | fryfrog: | it stores TONS of data |
| [08:14:00] | fryfrog: | a db only makes sense |
| [08:15:00] | man_in_shack: | ok, so htf do i get mysql set up? |
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| [08:15:00] | fryfrog: | usually its as simple as installing it, starting it and following the 2 or 3 lines it might spit out |
| [08:15:00] | fryfrog: | when you first install it, it usually has no root pw so the first thing you do is set a mysql root pw |
| [08:16:00] | fryfrog: | then just look at the docs on how to make a user, i think its there word for word |
| [08:16:00] | fryfrog: | myth docs |
| [08:16:00] | fryfrog: | not debian's myth docs |
| [08:16:00] | defaultro: | man_in_shock, http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html |
| [08:16:00] | stoffel: | the debian packages for mysql are setting up an administrator account for mysql during installation |
| [08:18:00] | stoffel: | with username/password provided by the user |
| [08:19:00] | man_in_shack: | no it's not |
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| [08:21:00] | man_in_shack: | and that howto doesn't have anything on setting up mysql |
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| [08:24:00] | man_in_shack: | fucking pos |
| [08:24:00] | Beirdo: | while I can understand that you are frustrated, man_in_shack... throwing attitude will get you no help |
| [08:25:00] | stoffel: | indeed, it doesn't ask for a usern/passwd, but read on: Please remember to set a PASSWORD for the MySQL root user! If you use a /root/.my.cnf, always x |
| [08:25:00] | stoffel: | x write the "user" and the "password" lines in there, never only the password! See x |
| [08:25:00] | stoffel: | x /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian for more information. |
| [08:25:00] | man_in_shack: | stoffel, as i said, it didn't help |
| [08:25:00] | stoffel: | hm, it did ask these questions in earlier versions |
| [08:25:00] | man_in_shack: | "If you use a /root/.my.cnf" << that sorta implies upgrading, not installing from scratch |
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| [08:27:00] | stoffel: | man_in_shack: RTF README.Debian |
| [08:27:00] | man_in_shack: | i DID |
| [08:27:00] | man_in_shack: | IT DIDN'T HELP |
| [08:28:00] | stoffel: | SHOUTING DOESN't EITHER |
| [08:28:00] | stoffel: | /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'enter-your-good-new-password-here' for the visually impaired |
| [08:29:00] | man_in_shack: | /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| [08:29:00] | man_in_shack: | error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)' |
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| [08:29:00] | man_in_shack: | and mysqld IS running |
| [08:30:00] | stoffel: | you already set a mysql-root password i'd guess |
| [08:30:00] | man_in_shack: | I didn't set one |
| [08:30:00] | man_in_shack: | if anything it set one itself |
| [08:30:00] | man_in_shack: | oh wait |
| [08:30:00] | man_in_shack: | blah. i created a .my.cnf thinking it might help |
| [08:31:00] | man_in_shack: | sorry |
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| [08:32:00] | Ridd1er: | anyone here have 2 inputs on a pvr-250 working with sound on each? |
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| [08:34:00] | man_in_shack: | ack |
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| [08:38:00] | man_in_shack: | presumeably i need to make sure there's a mysql user called mythtv |
| [08:38:00] | stoffel: | that's done with mc.sql |
| [08:38:00] | man_in_shack: | ok |
| [08:39:00] | man_in_shack: | cos i run mythtv and it brings up the database config thing |
| [08:39:00] | defaultro: | im happy, man's response now is very calm :) |
| [08:39:00] | man_in_shack: | but when i go finish, it just brings it up again |
| [08:39:00] | man_in_shack: | mythtv: could not connect to socket |
| [08:39:00] | man_in_shack: | mythtv: Connection refused |
| [08:40:00] | man_in_shack: | very odd |
| [08:40:00] | man_in_shack: | perhaps ...... |
| [08:40:00] | man_in_shack: | could be my firewall >.< |
| [08:41:00] | defaultro: | prolly not your firewall |
| [08:41:00] | defaultro: | are they different machines? |
| [08:41:00] | man_in_shack: | no |
| [08:41:00] | defaultro: | ok, so not firewall |
| [08:41:00] | defaultro: | try this |
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| [08:41:00] | defaultro: | netstat -na|grep 3306 |
| [08:42:00] | man_in_shack: | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
| [08:42:00] | defaultro: | you've run setup right? |
| [08:43:00] | man_in_shack: | what setup? |
| [08:43:00] | stoffel: | but did you set up the mythconverg database/create the mythtv mysql user before? |
| [08:43:00] | man_in_shack: | ...... |
| [08:43:00] | man_in_shack: | you talk like i know what i'm doing |
| [08:43:00] | Ridd1er: | anyone here who might have some insight on a weird sound issue? |
| [08:44:00] | Ridd1er: | i have just setup my 2nd input interface on my pvr-250 card.. The composite input plays sound.. but the tuner input doesn't |
| [08:44:00] | man_in_shack: | i'm on debian, i got it with apt-get -b source, i dpkg -i the packages it created |
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| [08:46:00] | stoffel: | man_in_shack: did you install mythtv-database already? it will do that for you, but using a randomly created password for the mythtv db user. see /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [08:46:00] | man_in_shack: | yes i did |
| [08:47:00] | man_in_shack: | checking /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [08:47:00] | man_in_shack: | is that hashed or plaintext? |
| [08:47:00] | stoffel: | DBHost is set to localhost? |
| [08:47:00] | stoffel: | plaintext afair |
| [08:48:00] | man_in_shack: | QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded << could this be the problem? |
| [08:53:00] | man_in_shack: | hello? |
| [08:55:00] | stoffel: | libqt3c102-mt-mysql is installed? |
| [08:55:00] | man_in_shack: | yes |
| [08:55:00] | man_in_shack: | http://pastebin.com/265576 << that's the output |
| [08:59:00] | stoffel: | can you connect to mysql on the command line with 'mysql -umythtv -p$PASSWORD mythconverg' using the password found in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt? |
| [08:59:00] | man_in_shack: | no errors |
| [09:00:00] | man_in_shack: | i get the mysql> prompt |
| [09:00:00] | stoffel: | also search the list archives, this driver error happens quite often |
| [09:00:00] | stoffel: | ok, just type 'quit;' to exit |
| [09:00:00] | man_in_shack: | or ctrl-d ..... :P |
| [09:00:00] | stoffel: | but i don't remeber what causes it |
| [09:01:00] | man_in_shack: | "by |
| [09:01:00] | man_in_shack: | adding /usr/lib/mysql to my /etc/ld.so.conf file and running ldconfig it |
| [09:01:00] | man_in_shack: | was included. " |
| [09:02:00] | man_in_shack: | well that's not it. i don't have a /usr/lib/mysql |
| [09:04:00] | Ridd1er: | does anyone know if you have have 2 inputs working simultaneously recording 2 different channels on mythtv with a single PVR-250? |
| [09:06:00] | man_in_shack: | i think i found it |
| [09:07:00] | man_in_shack: | no, that wasn't it |
| [09:11:00] | stoffel: | man_in_shack: did you compile qt yourself? |
| [09:11:00] | man_in_shack: | no |
| [09:11:00] | man_in_shack: | apt-get |
| [09:12:00] | stoffel: | what about mythtv? |
| [09:13:00] | man_in_shack: | apt-get build-dep mythtv && apt-get -b source mythtv |
| [09:13:00] | man_in_shack: | there's a thought ... maybe i should try rebuilding mythtv |
| [09:13:00] | stoffel: | why from source? see http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/archive/o_t/t . . . install.html |
| [09:13:00] | man_in_shack: | stoffel, because that's what the instructions in the docs said to do |
| [09:14:00] | stoffel: | huh? which ones? |
| [09:15:00] | man_in_shack: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.2 << Debian section |
| [09:15:00] | man_in_shack: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-4.html << Debian section |
| [09:19:00] | stoffel: | hm, it's a bit misleading but this section mostly talks about how to get the build-depends for mythtv if you want to compile from source. the link to mdz's page is more correct http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/ |
| [09:20:00] | man_in_shack: | i AM compiling from source |
| [09:20:00] | man_in_shack: | i'm just using apt-get to do it |
| [09:20:00] | stoffel: | yes, but why are you? mdz has bin. debs available |
| [09:21:00] | stoffel: | the debian section should be made more clear what's it's about. |
| [09:21:00] | man_in_shack: | hmm ok |
| [09:22:00] | man_in_shack: | hmm |
| [09:22:00] | stoffel: | you could try to add his packages to you apt sources and upgrade to his packages. that might give you a working installation |
| [09:23:00] | man_in_shack: | yeah |
| [09:24:00] | stoffel: | the mythtv doc's are concentrating on explaining how to build mythtv from source for various distros |
| [09:24:00] | man_in_shack: | yeah |
| [09:24:00] | man_in_shack: | takes a while for me to apt-get update |
| [09:25:00] | stoffel: | but the first sentence in the Debian section points one in the right direction |
| [09:25:00] | man_in_shack: | ok |
| [09:25:00] | stoffel: | 'Debian packages for MythTV and most...' |
| [09:25:00] | stoffel: | but it's not 100% clear indeed |
| [09:28:00] | man_in_shack: | Need to get 42.4MB/42.4MB of archives. |
| [09:28:00] | man_in_shack: | After unpacking 4096B disk space will be freed. |
| [09:29:00] | man_in_shack: | sounds like it's gonna delete an empty directory |
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| [09:57:00] | man_in_shack: | bleh, same problem |
| [10:05:00] | man_in_shack: | ack |
| [10:05:00] | man_in_shack: | this is impossible |
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| [10:12:00] | man_in_shack: | how do i make sure there's a mythtv user in mysql? |
| [10:13:00] | stoffel: | 'mysql -u root < mc.sql' from section 6.2 |
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| [10:13:00] | stoffel: | err, rather no. read that section actually |
| [10:14:00] | stoffel: | the mc.sql only creates the mythconverg db |
| [10:14:00] | man_in_shack: | yes, now you're getting somewhere |
| [10:14:00] | man_in_shack: | i need to make sure i got the user |
| [10:14:00] | stoffel: | but remember to update mysql.txt |
| [10:15:00] | man_in_shack: | ah ... yeah |
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| [10:15:00] | man_in_shack: | but you're not giving me what i need here |
| [10:16:00] | man_in_shack: | how do i make sure there's a mythtv user in mysql? |
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| [10:18:00] | stoffel: | actually it's the ''mysql -u root < mc.sql' step, do a little reading/thinking by yourself |
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| [10:19:00] | stoffel: | actually it's the ''mysql -u root < mc.sql' step, do a little reading/thinking by yourself |
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| [10:20:00] | stoffel: | you got that, man_in_shack? |
| [10:20:00] | man_in_shack: | <stoffel> actually it's the ''mysql -u root < mc.sql' step, do a little reading/thinking by yourself |
| [10:20:00] | man_in_shack: | mysql -u mythtv |
| [10:20:00] | man_in_shack: | ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: NO) |
| [10:20:00] | fryfrog: | (-p_ |
| [10:20:00] | man_in_shack: | so how do i reset that password? |
| [10:20:00] | fryfrog: | er |
| [10:21:00] | fryfrog: | use "-p" so it'll ask for a pw |
| [10:21:00] | fryfrog: | otherwise it assumes no pw |
| [10:21:00] | man_in_shack: | then what do i type? |
| [10:21:00] | man_in_shack: | cos it sure as hell ain't "mythtv". i've already tried that |
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| [10:22:00] | stoffel: | i believe you better should take a break |
| [10:22:00] | stoffel: | 'mysql -u root < mc.sql' |
| [10:22:00] | man_in_shack: | ... |
| [10:22:00] | man_in_shack: | stoffel, THAT DOES NOT HELP |
| [10:23:00] | stoffel: | and add '-p$MYSQL_ROOT_PASSWD' if necessary |
| [10:23:00] | fryfrog: | have you tried the docs? when i installed myth they were quite good about how to do the stuff |
| [10:23:00] | Coume: | morning |
| [10:23:00] | man_in_shack: | mysql -u root -pxxxxx < mc.sql |
| [10:23:00] | man_in_shack: | ERROR 1007 at line 1: Can't create database 'mythconverg'. Database exists |
| [10:23:00] | man_in_shack: | stoffel, satisfied? |
| [10:24:00] | stoffel: | i'm fine, thanks |
| [10:24:00] | fryfrog: | i guess you get what you pay for, right? :) |
| [10:24:00] | DSL_MTLCA__: | i think he means use -p when you try to access the db |
| [10:24:00] | man_in_shack: | fryfrog, i don't see anything about changing the password for mythtv |
| [10:24:00] | DSL_MTLCA__: | mysql -u mythtv -p |
| [10:24:00] | man_in_shack: | cos i don't know wtf that is |
| [10:24:00] | stoffel: | man_in_shack: then delete the old mythconverg database first; |
| [10:24:00] | man_in_shack: | how? |
| [10:25:00] | man_in_shack: | you talk as if i know how to use mysql |
| [10:25:00] | stoffel: | man_in_shack: log in as the mysql root and type 'drop database mythconverg' or 'drop mythconverg;' don't remeber the syntax |
| [10:25:00] | fryfrog: | obviously you can red, what stops you from helping yourself even a little bit? |
| [10:25:00] | DSL_MTLCA__: | now man_in_shack, i have to admit, how to delete it is easily spelled out in the documentation... :) |
| [10:25:00] | fryfrog: | read |
| [10:26:00] | man_in_shack: | i'm trying to get mythtv working. after all this, i'll still be stuck with the problem of mythtv not being able to connect to the server |
| [10:26:00] | stoffel: | but you'll be one step close |
| [10:26:00] | stoffel: | r |
| [10:26:00] | man_in_shack: | DSL_MTLCA__, it's a hell of a lot faster if you either show me exactly the page i need to look at or tell me what i need to do |
| [10:26:00] | man_in_shack: | stoffel, precisely |
| [10:26:00] | DSL_MTLCA__: | man_in_shack, sure it's faster and easier, but that's not always the best solution |
| [10:26:00] | fryfrog: | ah, i see so other people should do the work of figuring out what you should do and pointing you to it? |
| [10:27:00] | DSL_MTLCA__: | if your mommie set up mythtv for you, wouldn't that be easier too? |
| [10:27:00] | man_in_shack: | no |
| [10:27:00] | man_in_shack: | she's clueless |
| [10:27:00] | fryfrog: | we would have to go read through the docs and figure it out just like you, we don't have them memorised |
| [10:27:00] | DSL_MTLCA__: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-21.html#ss21.6 |
| [10:27:00] | DSL_MTLCA__: | happy? |
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| [10:28:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | don't know how those __'s got there... must have reconnected w/ a ghost earlier or something... |
| [10:28:00] | man_in_shack: | why is that under "miscellaneous" and not "mysql"? |
| [10:28:00] | man_in_shack: | forget it |
| [10:29:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | anybody here run the front end w/o using just the regular size defaults? i.e. you specify height/width and offsets? i want to know because i think i have spotted a minor bug |
| [10:29:00] | man_in_shack: | and that STILL hasn't helped with resetting the password for mysql user mythtv |
| [10:30:00] | fryfrog: | did you actually MAKE the mythtv user? |
| [10:30:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | i run the frontend w/ custom sizes, and in mythvideo the listing view has the text mis-aligned from the background image... |
| [10:30:00] | man_in_shack: | no |
| [10:30:00] | man_in_shack: | but presumably something did |
| [10:30:00] | fryfrog: | does it exist? |
| [10:31:00] | man_in_shack: | it gives me "Access denied" when i do mysql -u mythtv |
| [10:31:00] | man_in_shack: | that's all i know |
| [10:31:00] | fryfrog: | are there any steps in the docs that tell you HOW to create a user? |
| [10:31:00] | man_in_shack: | again, you expect i actually KNOW something about mysql. stop it |
| [10:31:00] | man_in_shack: | not that i could see |
| [10:31:00] | fryfrog: | so if you need mysql support, try #mysql or their website |
| [10:31:00] | man_in_shack: | except for stuff specifically relating to root |
| [10:31:00] | DSL_MTLCA: | what guide are you using? |
| [10:32:00] | fryfrog: | sounds like you need to pick a good guide and just start over |
| [10:32:00] | stoffel: | man_in_shack: after deleting the db, reran the mc.sql step, this will create the mythtv user and set it's password to mythtv |
| [10:32:00] | man_in_shack: | stoffel, how does creating a database and granting priveledges set a password? |
| [10:32:00] | man_in_shack: | stoffel, do you want my copy of mc.sql? |
| [10:33:00] | stoffel: | GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv"; |
| [10:33:00] | stoffel: | is the 2nd line in mc.sql |
| [10:33:00] | man_in_shack: | ok |
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| [10:34:00] | man_in_shack: | ah i must have had a typo before. now it's logged in |
| [10:37:00] | man_in_shack: | mythtv still can't connect to the mysql server |
| [10:38:00] | fryfrog: | what part of myth? |
| [10:39:00] | man_in_shack: | i run mythtv it brings up the database config |
| [10:39:00] | man_in_shack: | i run mythtv-config it does the same ... |
| [10:39:00] | man_in_shack: | QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| [10:39:00] | man_in_shack: | QSqlDatabase: available drivers: |
| [10:39:00] | Riff-Raff: | you need to install qt's mysql driver |
| [10:40:00] | man_in_shack: | dpkg-reconfigure libqt3c102-mt-mysql |
| [10:40:00] | man_in_shack: | given that package is installed, and i just apt-get --reinstall installed it too to make sure |
| [10:41:00] | fryfrog: | is there some reason you picked debian? |
| [10:42:00] | man_in_shack: | ... |
| [10:42:00] | man_in_shack: | is there some reason you picked pc? |
| [10:42:00] | fryfrog: | what i mean is, there are some really excelent guides for FC3 |
| [10:43:00] | fryfrog: | do you use debian normally for other things? |
| [10:43:00] | man_in_shack: | i started my linux life on mandrake about 5 years ago. when i found it was difficult to update and compile software on, i went about looking for debian |
| [10:43:00] | fryfrog: | or did you just pick it for your first use? |
| [10:43:00] | man_in_shack: | i have stuck with debian since |
| [10:43:00] | fryfrog: | so you know your way around debian and linux then |
| [10:43:00] | man_in_shack: | now i'm trying to get mythtv working in anticipation of my tv tuner |
| [10:43:00] | man_in_shack: | i sure know my way around debian ... |
| [10:44:00] | fryfrog: | good, cause i don't have a fuckin clue how you get mysql support into qt :) |
| [10:44:00] | fryfrog: | but even though its installed, you obviously don't have it working or myth wouldn't be complaining about it |
| [10:44:00] | man_in_shack: | fryfrog, that libqt3c102-mt-mysql package is supposed to do it |
| [10:44:00] | man_in_shack: | but myth still can't connect to the server |
| [10:44:00] | fryfrog: | i suspect there is probably another step |
| [10:44:00] | fryfrog: | maybe modify a config file? |
| [10:44:00] | man_in_shack: | not according to the mail list archives |
| [10:44:00] | fryfrog: | or something |
| [10:45:00] | fryfrog: | maybe a path is wrong or something |
| [10:45:00] | man_in_shack: | i tried adding /path/to/qtmysqllibs to /etc/ld.so.conf. no such luck |
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| [10:45:00] | fryfrog: | maybe someone who uses debian will show up |
| [10:45:00] | fryfrog: | and not be offended by your attitude ;p |
| [10:45:00] | fryfrog: | (or won't scroll up to far) |
| [10:46:00] | fryfrog: | you might take a peak at the FC3 guide, its got a lot of useful info even if you don't use FC |
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| [10:47:00] | man_in_shack: | what i don't get is: |
| [10:47:00] | man_in_shack: | http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInfo << read the sysreqs |
| [10:48:00] | man_in_shack: | Linux. I use Debian unstable. |
| [10:48:00] | man_in_shack: | should i be able to see some sql-related deps when i do ldd on the myth execs? |
| [10:49:00] | Riff-Raff: | no |
| [10:49:00] | man_in_shack: | ok |
| [10:49:00] | fryfrog: | maybe qt? |
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| [10:49:00] | Riff-Raff: | because myth uses qt and qt in turn uses mysql |
| [10:49:00] | man_in_shack: | hand on wtf? |
| [10:49:00] | man_in_shack: | i think i may have found the problem |
| [10:49:00] | man_in_shack: | (MAY have) |
| [10:50:00] | man_in_shack: | in any case, i've found something that doesn't look right |
| [10:50:00] | fryfrog: | i've got my hand on my wtf |
| [10:50:00] | man_in_shack: | *hang |
| [10:51:00] | man_in_shack: | BINGO |
| [10:52:00] | man_in_shack: | it was using the wrong qt libsd |
| [10:52:00] | man_in_shack: | *libs |
| [10:52:00] | man_in_shack: | was using the libs from a proprietory vided package i was using |
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| [10:54:00] | fryfrog: | so basically a crap load of nothing over a typo and wrong libs ;p |
| [10:55:00] | man_in_shack: | not really |
| [10:55:00] | man_in_shack: | something had stuffed up the password for mysql user mythtv |
| [10:58:00] | man_in_shack: | does mythtv support alsa sound or only oss? |
| [11:00:00] | Riff-Raff: | it supports both |
| [11:01:00] | man_in_shack: | hmm |
| [11:01:00] | Riff-Raff: | if it is so compiled |
| [11:02:00] | man_in_shack: | ok |
| [11:03:00] | man_in_shack: | next, i need a tv tuner :P |
| [11:03:00] | Riff-Raff: | :) |
| [11:03:00] | Riff-Raff: | helps |
| [11:04:00] | man_in_shack: | i wanted to get myth set up now, so when i get the card i can just plug it in and hopefully get it to work |
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| [11:08:00] | Dibblah: | Actually, it only supports OSS for capture. |
| [11:08:00] | man_in_shack: | ok |
| [11:09:00] | Dibblah: | If you're using a 'dumb' capture card. |
| [11:09:00] | man_in_shack: | hehe |
| [11:09:00] | Dibblah: | (I'd heartily suggest a PVRx50) |
| [11:09:00] | man_in_shack: | doesn't sound very dvb ... ;) |
| [11:09:00] | fryfrog: | what do you mean it only supports OSS for capture? |
| [11:09:00] | man_in_shack: | i'm looking at the v-stream xpert dvb-t |
| [11:09:00] | fryfrog: | i'm pretty sure you can use alsa to capture audio from a software card |
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| [11:16:00] | Dibblah: | fryfrog: Nope. |
| [11:16:00] | Dibblah: | Look at the code... It's very OSS specific. |
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| [11:20:00] | fryfrog: | well i'll take your word for it then :) |
| [11:20:00] | fryfrog: | i have pvr 250s, so either way don't matter |
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| [11:28:00] | mejo: | what do i have to dump if i want to redo the mythfilldatabase --manual run? |
| [11:28:00] | mejo: | only the mysql table 'channels'? |
| [11:29:00] | mejo: | is cleaning sufficient, or do i need to dump it? and does mythfilldatabase touch any other databases? |
| [11:29:00] | mejo: | or is it ok to purge all tables in the db 'mythtv'? |
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| [12:59:00] | ProtocoLD: | . |
| [12:59:00] | ProtocoLD: | morning people... afternoon/eveing to others! :) |
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| [13:40:00] | SuperCatFrog: | hi – im having problems with mythtv from todays cvs: mythbackend: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libmyth-0.17.so.0: undefined symbol: _ZTV14MythCDROMLinux |
| [13:41:00] | stoffel: | SuperCatFrog: you did make distclean first? |
| [13:41:00] | SuperCatFrog: | no |
| [13:41:00] | SuperCatFrog: | thanks, i'l try that now |
| [13:41:00] | stoffel: | there was a commit 1–2 days ago requiring distclean |
| [13:42:00] | SuperCatFrog: | oh rite |
| [13:42:00] | SuperCatFrog: | i made poo then, because i didn't keep the old cvs tree around and 0.17 does'nt have everything i need |
| [13:43:00] | SuperCatFrog: | oh ye – i have to record homo+gay for my gf at 6 (its 2:43 now) |
| [13:43:00] | SuperCatFrog: | *home+away |
| [13:43:00] | stoffel: | hehe |
| [13:46:00] | SuperCatFrog: | brb |
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| [13:52:00] | SuperCatFrog: | back |
| [13:55:00] | SuperCatFrog: | has there been much cvs activity (particular DVB stuff) recently (my last snapshot was from 2 weeks after 0.17 |
| [13:56:00] | o_c: | SuperCatFrog, if you're using CVS you have to follow the -commits list. |
| [13:56:00] | stoffel: | o_c: hi |
| [13:57:00] | SuperCatFrog: | ok o_c |
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| [14:14:00] | o_c: | stoffel, hello |
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| [14:14:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v o_cee | |
| [14:15:00] | SuperCatFrog: | argh! im still getting that error: mythbackend: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libmyth-0.17.so.0: undefined symbol: _ZTV14MythCDROMLinux |
| [14:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | recompiled from scratch ? |
| [14:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | Did you rerun ./configure and qmake mythtv.pro , then make ? |
| [14:16:00] | SuperCatFrog: | ah – didn't do ./configure |
| [14:16:00] | SuperCatFrog: | bloody hell |
| [14:16:00] | stoffel: | o_cee: the conflicts in the *.ts file i mentioned yesterday, it's not simple merge conflicts but actually a lot of translations are being changed back to unfinished |
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| [14:18:00] | stoffel: | hm, or they were merge conflicts and i didn't notice them before running lupdate |
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| [15:29:00] | SuperCatFrog: | argh! im getting this from the latest cvs version after i did make distclean ; ./configure ; qmake mythtv.pro ; make ; make install: http://rafb.net/paste/results/LRtXnR64.html |
| [15:33:00] | jams: | somewhere you have an old lib or binary laying around |
| [15:33:00] | SuperCatFrog: | any idea's what i can do? |
| [15:34:00] | SuperCatFrog: | *i did make uninstall before make distclean |
| [15:35:00] | stoffel: | dito, but in a different location? |
| [15:36:00] | stoffel: | homo&gay will start soon, you know ;) |
| [15:36:00] | SuperCatFrog: | i know |
| [15:36:00] | ** SuperCatFrog panics ** | |
| [15:36:00] | jams: | if I were you I would clean out both /usr and /usr/local of any myth stuff and just do another make install |
| [15:36:00] | SuperCatFrog: | ok |
| [15:37:00] | SuperCatFrog: | like this? |
| [15:37:00] | SuperCatFrog: | find /usr | grep myth | xargs rm -rfv |
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| [15:39:00] | stoffel: | look for myth stuff in /usr | /usr/local in these dir.: bin,include,lib,share. |
| [15:39:00] | stoffel: | it's not that many locations |
| [15:39:00] | riksta: | SuperCatFrog: be careful just grepping for "myth" |
| [15:39:00] | riksta: | i'd lok at the output before you xargs rm it |
| [15:40:00] | SuperCatFrog: | ok |
| [15:40:00] | jams: | heh my boss want's me to find a way to log his kids AIM sessions |
| [15:41:00] | Geckofiend: | weeee |
| [15:41:00] | SuperCatFrog: | oh bloody hell |
| [15:41:00] | SuperCatFrog: | DVB support no [/usr/src/linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r4/include] |
| [15:41:00] | SuperCatFrog: | thats not the path i gave |
| [15:42:00] | Geckofiend: | just invent some obscenity laced cyber-sex and give it to him |
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| [15:42:00] | SuperCatFrog: | jams – gaim does AIM and logging |
| [15:42:00] | jams: | just send me your log files |
| [15:43:00] | jams: | SuperCatFrog, true |
| [15:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | yay, yet another business trip where they can't tell me exactly what I need to do until I get there |
| [15:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | grar |
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| [15:51:00] | ** stoffel hides ** | |
| [15:51:00] | CyberKnet: | any other fc2 apt-getters in here? |
| [15:51:00] | ** CyberKnet wonders why stoffel is hiding ** | |
| [15:52:00] | ** SuperCatFrog hides ** | |
| [15:52:00] | ** stoffel too, and comes back ;) ** | |
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| [15:53:00] | ** SuperCatFrog makes whimpering noises from corner of room ** | |
| [15:53:00] | ** CyberKnet goes to grep the mailing lists for a problem he's having ** | |
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| [15:53:00] | SuperCatFrog: | i dont suppose anybody has a tarball of cvs from about a week ago? |
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| [15:54:00] | stoffel: | SuperCatFrog: you can check out cvs versions of a specific date, but don't ask me exactly how, man cvs should have more |
| [15:54:00] | CyberKnet: | hahahah. I love gmail. "You are currently using 187Mb (13%) of your 1397Mb. |
| [15:54:00] | CyberKnet: | in a minute, that'll be 1398Mb |
| [15:54:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [15:54:00] | catphish: | lol |
| [15:54:00] | SuperCatFrog: | thanks stoffel |
| [15:55:00] | Baylink: | Nice of the bot to tell us. :-) |
| [15:55:00] | CyberKnet: | check out www.gmail.com today =P" |
| [15:55:00] | catphish: | my the extra gmail space? |
| [15:55:00] | catphish: | *why |
| [15:55:00] | CyberKnet: | catphish: go to www.gmail.com to see |
| [15:55:00] | CyberKnet: | it's part of their new storage plan |
| [15:55:00] | stoffel: | lol |
| [15:56:00] | SuperCatFrog: | i hate cvs's manpage – does anybody know howto checkout a tree from cvs from a specific date? |
| [15:56:00] | riksta: | -d |
| [15:56:00] | catphish: | oh yeah thats cool |
| [15:56:00] | riksta: | err |
| [15:56:00] | riksta: | -D |
| [15:56:00] | catphish: | they just installing drives endlessly? lol |
| [15:57:00] | SuperCatFrog: | thanks riksta |
| [15:57:00] | catphish: | up to 1400MB, this is sorta ridiculous |
| [15:57:00] | riksta: | SuperCatFrog: god knows why you can't just look in the man |
| [15:57:00] | CyberKnet: | catphish: come on man. It's a joke dammit =) |
| [15:57:00] | riksta: | You are currently using 237 MB (17%) of your 1399 MB. |
| [15:58:00] | catphish: | dnt loko like a joke to me |
| [15:58:00] | catphish: | You are currently using 0 MB (0%) of your 1399 MB. |
| [15:58:00] | CyberKnet: | catphish: go to the main gmail page |
| [15:58:00] | CyberKnet: | sign out if you have to |
| [15:58:00] | CyberKnet: | www.gmail.com |
| [15:58:00] | catphish: | i went there |
| [15:58:00] | catphish: | its funny |
| [15:58:00] | CyberKnet: | The very bottom of the page |
| [15:58:00] | CyberKnet: | starting "Gmail turns 1 today" |
| [15:58:00] | catphish: | oh yeah! |
| [15:58:00] | catphish: | lol |
| [15:58:00] | CyberKnet: | dumbass =P |
| [15:59:00] | catphish: | google are funny guys |
| [15:59:00] | catphish: | but last year it wasnt a joke |
| [15:59:00] | CyberKnet: | true that. |
| [15:59:00] | CyberKnet: | I bet at the end of the day they cap it at 2GB and leave it there. |
| [15:59:00] | CyberKnet: | You heard it here first. |
| [15:59:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [15:59:00] | riksta: | don't be stupid |
| [15:59:00] | stoffel: | first i heard it in my mind |
| [15:59:00] | riksta: | in a few years 2GB will be nothing |
| [15:59:00] | catphish: | "To celebrate our one-year birthday, we're giving everyone one more gigabyte" |
| [16:00:00] | catphish: | yeah they will for now |
| [16:00:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: append " for this year" after "there" |
| [16:00:00] | riksta: | :P |
| [16:00:00] | riksta: | wtf my myth is screwed, i cant watch my recording or tv today!? |
| [16:01:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: just last night mine started to *really* speed up recordings, and it's not timestretch |
| [16:01:00] | catphish: | riksta: mine's ok |
| [16:01:00] | CyberKnet: | fine one minute, then a all of a sudden, playback starts accellerating to all hell |
| [16:01:00] | catphish: | lol |
| [16:01:00] | riksta: | i havent installed any new CVS |
| [16:01:00] | CyberKnet: | and then freezes |
| [16:01:00] | riksta: | its werid |
| [16:01:00] | CyberKnet: | neitehr did I |
| [16:01:00] | riksta: | it just hangs on 2005-04–01 17:01:12.536 Opening audio device 'default'. |
| [16:02:00] | laga: | well, i dont have any recordings scheduled which is odd. |
| [16:02:00] | riksta: | weird man |
| [16:02:00] | CyberKnet: | mine hangs with "waited too long xyz something else I should have remembered" |
| [16:02:00] | riksta: | CyberKnet: thats probably waiting for buffer |
| [16:02:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: could be. |
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| [16:02:00] | riksta: | thats strange that all of ours are broken somehow |
| [16:02:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: I did do an apt-get dist-upgrade ... I'm wondering if that upgraded a dependant library |
| [16:03:00] | CyberKnet: | like ffmpeg or something |
| [16:03:00] | riksta: | CyberKnet: yeah i upgraded ffmpeg actually |
| [16:03:00] | riksta: | i think |
| [16:03:00] | riksta: | lemme check |
| [16:03:00] | riksta: | nah i didnt |
| [16:03:00] | Beirdo: | Blah |
| [16:03:00] | CyberKnet: | Blah |
| [16:03:00] | riksta: | Beirdo: :) |
| [16:03:00] | stoffel: | mythtv uses it's own copy of the libavcodec lib, not ffmpeg's version |
| [16:03:00] | riksta: | ah |
| [16:04:00] | hadeees: | MythLogBot, fetch |
| [16:04:00] | riksta: | well anyway, something is busted here |
| [16:04:00] | hadeees: | does this bot do anything else? |
| [16:04:00] | hadeees: | Beirdo, how about prepared answers |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | heya, riksta. Got my second FXO card in :) |
| [16:04:00] | riksta: | Beirdo: niiice :) |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | it's a logging bot only |
| [16:04:00] | stoffel: | catphish: no, just empty the program table and let it fill again, that works for xmltv users |
| [16:04:00] | SuperCatFrog: | im sorry but i cant work out cvs – can somebody tell me the command to checkout cvs from the 20th of march? |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | at some point, I will likely write a real bot (in C, not f'ing Java) that will do FAQs, etc |
| [16:05:00] | Beirdo: | in the way I want it done, of course |
| [16:05:00] | catphish: | stoffel: im not using xmltv |
| [16:05:00] | riksta: | ah imma have to restart, one of my kernel modules has crashed |
| [16:05:00] | riksta: | might be the problem |
| [16:05:00] | riksta: | brb |
| [16:05:00] | catphish: | stoffel: the problem is that listings are sent in the wrong timezone |
| [16:05:00] | jams: | or use a dancer bot which aleady does that sort of thing |
| [16:05:00] | riksta (~rick@81-178-193-191.dsl.pipex.com) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [16:05:00] | catphish: | stoffel: and myth isnt shifting them |
| [16:05:00] | Beirdo: | SuperCatFrog: cvs co mythtv -D 2005-03–20 or something like that |
| [16:05:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: let me introduce yyou to eggdrop, and the 1990's =P" |
| [16:05:00] | Beirdo: | man cvs |
| [16:05:00] | stoffel: | catphish: aaah, i see |
| [16:05:00] | SuperCatFrog: | thanks beirdo |
| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: eggdrop doesn't do what I want |
| [16:06:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: Of course it doesn't |
| [16:06:00] | catphish: | i like eggdrop |
| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | I'm a particular bastard, you should know that by now |
| [16:06:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: that's why we have TCL =) |
| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | no. No TCL allowed |
| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:06:00] | CyberKnet: | heheheh |
| [16:06:00] | CyberKnet: | okay |
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| [16:06:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: That's why we have the C source =) |
| [16:07:00] | Beirdo: | if it will be running on my linode, my goal would be to make it a small memory footprint. this LogBot is like 12MB+ |
| [16:07:00] | Beirdo: | fuckin Java |
| [16:07:00] | CyberKnet: | wow |
| [16:07:00] | CyberKnet: | that's nice |
| [16:07:00] | CyberKnet: | 12MB for an irc bot |
| [16:07:00] | CyberKnet: | way to go =) |
| [16:07:00] | CyberKnet: | (an irc bot that does almost nothing, I might add) |
| [16:07:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [16:07:00] | laga: | logbot? |
| [16:07:00] | CyberKnet: | can't wait to see how the next version of Havok performs. Will it also be ported to java? =P" |
| [16:07:00] | ** CyberKnet hides ** | |
| [16:08:00] | ** Beirdo slaps CyberKnet repeatedly with a trout ** | |
| [16:08:00] | Beirdo: | MythLogBot: help |
| [16:08:00] | SuperCatFrog: | woo! got it |
| [16:08:00] | Beirdo: | that's the only thing it responds to, I believe |
| [16:08:00] | catphish: | lol |
| [16:08:00] | laga: | cool |
| [16:08:00] | stoffel: | help |
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| [16:09:00] | stoffel: | ok, got it now ;) |
| [16:09:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: You can hide out under there |
| [16:09:00] | laga: | MythLogBot: help |
| [16:09:00] | riksta: | god damn, it's still the same |
| [16:09:00] | catphish: | lmao |
| [16:09:00] | riksta: | 2005-04–01 17:08:35.882 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [16:09:00] | riksta: | 2005-04–01 17:08:35.936 Using profile 'Live TV' to record |
| [16:09:00] | riksta: | [mpeg4 @ 0xb7864830]removing common factors from framerate |
| [16:09:00] | riksta: | strange error flushing buffer ... |
| [16:09:00] | riksta: | 2005-04–01 17:09:24.569 Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None |
| [16:09:00] | riksta: | what's that all about |
| [16:10:00] | catphish: | riksta: that looks healthy to me |
| [16:10:00] | stoffel: | riksta: ignore that, it's avcodec/lame blah blah |
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| [16:10:00] | riksta: | ah ok, hmmm well my frontend wont watch livetv or recordings, just hangs after opening audio device |
| [16:11:00] | CyberKnet: | man, I want to see Isaac send a message to -users that says "Sorry guys, SnapStream offered me a huge chunk of change for MythTV and I couldn't refuse. Effective immediately, MythTV is closed source software and will no longer be developed. I have split the money with all the devs, so no more patches will be made. Thanks for the ride!" =P |
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| [16:11:00] | CyberKnet: | that would be a kick-ass april fools =) |
| [16:11:00] | stoffel: | *g* |
| [16:11:00] | catphish: | lol yeah |
| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | Jeez, the shit would never end from that one |
| [16:11:00] | laga: | a friend of mine just told me that she was going to move, and i believed it |
| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | make it better... |
| [16:11:00] | FaithX: | Hey, has anyone got tv_grab_au working for DVB-T?? |
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| [16:12:00] | Beirdo: | Microsoft offered him money |
| [16:12:00] | catphish: | wow |
| [16:12:00] | CyberKnet: | yeah, tht would be better |
| [16:12:00] | Beirdo: | and MythTV will be MCE 2006 |
| [16:12:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:12:00] | stoffel: | better yet, nvidia asked him to relicense mythtv |
| [16:12:00] | CyberKnet: | more believable: NVidia is packaging it up as a binary only add-on value add for their cards |
| [16:12:00] | catphish: | thats less believable |
| [16:12:00] | riksta: | hmm could this cause a prob |
| [16:12:00] | riksta: | Thu Mar 31 15:31:11 2005 >>> media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.9_rc2 |
| [16:12:00] | laga: | running in qemu ;) |
| [16:12:00] | riksta: | that was something i updated recently |
| [16:13:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: hmmm... maybe me too |
| [16:13:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: Go ask Isaac to do it =) |
| [16:13:00] | stoffel: | riksta: try to use oss instead |
| [16:13:00] | riksta: | stoffel: good point :) |
| [16:13:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
| [16:13:00] | CyberKnet: | weenie |
| [16:14:00] | ** Beirdo is not awake enough for such crap ** | |
| [16:14:00] | Grooby: | ..zzzZZZZZZ |
| [16:14:00] | CyberKnet: | go drink a pilsner of port, and then think about doing it again |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | I mean, gimme a break, I went to bet at 5am |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | bed even |
| [16:15:00] | riksta: | ok yep, it's alsa that is the problem |
| [16:15:00] | riksta: | works fine with oss |
| [16:15:00] | ** CyberKnet wonders about downgrading alsa-lib ** | |
| [16:16:00] | CyberKnet: | wooo. my production myth box has been up for 130 days. |
| [16:16:00] | ** Beirdo screams ** | |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | got Ob-la-di Ob-la-da stuck in my head |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | go FUCK yourself, song |
| [16:17:00] | CyberKnet: | ob-la-di-hell |
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| [16:17:00] | ** SuperCatFrog closes eyes and puts metallica on, quickly ** | |
| [16:18:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: just think "Surely Goodness" |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | and WMP is being a bitch |
| [16:20:00] | Beirdo: | scan THIS, bitch |
| [16:20:00] | Beirdo: | Ahhh. |
| [16:20:00] | ** Beirdo cues some Megadeth. That should drown out the Beatles nicely ** | |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | unwelcome music be damned |
| [16:22:00] | _johnp: | is GreyFoxx around ? I'm after the driver for the Niveus remote ? |
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| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | neat |
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| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | we have a debian developer and a gentoo developer... |
| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | need some more developer.distro users in here :) |
| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | maybe then the religious war will subside a bit while people try to be more objective |
| [16:32:00] | SuperCatFrog: | or develop extentions to the irc protocol to control of usb devices – anybody who starts a distro war gets their usb coffee cup warmer turned off |
| [16:33:00] | laga: | lol |
| [16:33:00] | CyberKnet: | hmmmm.... give access to control my hardware to other people over an insecure communication medium... let me think |
| [16:33:00] | CyberKnet: | no |
| [16:34:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [16:34:00] | ** CyberKnet goes back to his pl/sql ** | |
| [16:34:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: you wuss |
| [16:34:00] | ** Beirdo turns on CyberKnet's USB cattle-prod and zaps him ** | |
| [16:35:00] | SuperCatFrog: | real men use 123 as their root password with _telnet_ listening to the world |
| [16:35:00] | ** CyberKnet turns off Beirdo's USB SonyaTheSucker ** | |
| [16:35:00] | CyberKnet: | SuperCatFrog: s/123/xyzzy/ |
| [16:35:00] | Beirdo: | real men have no root password and allow telnet |
| [16:36:00] | CyberKnet: | real men have a shell prompt listening on port 23 |
| [16:36:00] | SuperCatFrog: | lol |
| [16:36:00] | CyberKnet: | a *root* shell prompt, even. |
| [16:36:00] | CyberKnet: | however, I am a wussie |
| [16:36:00] | CyberKnet: | so I dont even have telnet installed. |
| [16:36:00] | CyberKnet: | client, nor server. |
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| [16:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | _johnp: I am now |
| [16:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/ati_remote.c |
| [16:37:00] | stoffel_: | real men are busy f*cking all the women who admire them, they don't need computers |
| [16:37:00] | Geckofiend: | reminds me of the old DOS joke: Real programmer write code with "copy con > program.exe" |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: the client is useful |
| [16:38:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: not to me =) |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | the server can eat me |
| [16:38:00] | SuperCatFrog: | a root bash xinetd file for anybody who's manly enough: http://rafb.net/paste/results/v7huIZ43.html |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | telnet localhost 25 |
| [16:38:00] | CyberKnet: | SuperCatFrog: hah |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | for instance... |
| [16:38:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: I have no POP server listening |
| [16:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man I get cranky when I have to do something on asystem with out the telnet command :) |
| [16:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | that's smtp, pop is 110 |
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| [16:39:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: Besides, that's why we have netcat |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | um, no |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | port 25 is SMTP |
| [16:39:00] | CyberKnet: | *neither* are listening on my machine. |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | and netcat doesn't do squat for testing stuff like SMTP, NNTP, HTTP, etc |
| [16:40:00] | ** CyberKnet needs to remember to fgrep /etc/services more often ** | |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | or for mudding |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:40:00] | CyberKnet: | mudding. heh. I knew there was an ulterior motive. |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | although telnet is a supremely shitty mud client |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | I use telnet for testing all sorts of stuff |
| [16:40:00] | CyberKnet: | That's right. the One True Mud Client is emacs |
| [16:40:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [16:41:00] | SuperCatFrog: | the one true everything is emacs |
| [16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | bah |
| [16:41:00] | CyberKnet: | SuperCatFrog: you mean "emacs is the one true <anything>" |
| [16:42:00] | CyberKnet: | don't get me wrong, I'm a vi guy, but I'll make an emacs joke at the drop of a hat if I think it's funny =P" |
| [16:42:00] | CyberKnet: | of course, whether other pople think it is funny is a different issue |
| [16:42:00] | CyberKnet: | (d'oh) |
| [16:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [16:43:00] | SuperCatFrog: | cyberknett – ive never actually tried emacs – i just regurgitate other peoples emacs jokes ;) |
| [16:43:00] | CyberKnet: | BTW, Real men wire transistors together by hand instead of writing code. |
| [16:43:00] | SuperCatFrog: | im a nano man myself |
| [16:43:00] | CyberKnet: | bleh |
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| [16:44:00] | CyberKnet: | *vomit* |
| [16:44:00] | CyberKnet: | *hurl* |
| [16:44:00] | CyberKnet: | *regurgitate* |
| [16:44:00] | CyberKnet: | *blow chunks* |
| [16:44:00] | SuperCatFrog: | although i do use vi when nano isn't there |
| [16:44:00] | CyberKnet: | have I made myself clear WRT my feelings about nano? |
| [16:45:00] | tarko: | n a n o ? this does not seem to be real. |
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| [16:45:00] | SuperCatFrog: | whats wrong with nano? its nice and simple |
| [16:45:00] | CyberKnet: | it's not vi |
| [16:45:00] | CyberKnet: | thats whats wrong with nano =) |
| [16:45:00] | SuperCatFrog: | if im doing anything more complex than a simple config file i use kwrite |
| [16:45:00] | SuperCatFrog: | kwrite is like god |
| [16:45:00] | riksta: | cant do crazy regex in nano :) |
| [16:45:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: damn straight =) Although I typically do that in sed |
| [16:46:00] | riksta: | CyberKnet: :%s/foo/boo/g :) |
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| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | nano sucks |
| [16:46:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: Not debating that it can be done, just making an observation =) |
| [16:46:00] | riksta: | :) |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | for it to be the defacto standard for gentoo and ubuntu is damn annoying |
| [16:46:00] | riksta: | well |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | learn vi, you silly wankers |
| [16:46:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: you're kidding... |
| [16:46:00] | riksta: | i guess i have to recompile myth against the new alsalib |
| [16:47:00] | riksta: | Beirdo: haha "wankers" |
| [16:47:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: It's the default editor for gentoo? That makes so much sense, considering the users... |
| [16:47:00] | riksta: | you're getting english :) |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | no, I'm not kidding |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | riksta: I've been partially English for bloody years :) |
| [16:47:00] | CyberKnet: | hahah. and you're a gentoo user. so what did I just say about you? =P" |
| [16:47:00] | riksta: | Beirdo: :) |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | I'm also an ubuntu user |
| [16:47:00] | riksta: | i'm a gentoo user |
| [16:47:00] | CyberKnet: | he's a canadian, eh? that's 3/4 english already. |
| [16:47:00] | riksta: | my editor is vim |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | and I use vim on both |
| [16:48:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: as you darned well should. |
| [16:48:00] | reggbixby: | Anyone have time to help me with FC3 and lirc? |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | gah, lirc... |
| [16:48:00] | ** Beirdo runs away ** | |
| [16:48:00] | CyberKnet: | LMAO. Paris Hilton recruited to publicize linux: http://www.theage.com.au/news/Breaking/Linux- . . . 2521987.html |
| [16:48:00] | reggbixby: | LOL |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | using Linux makes you into a vacuous slut? |
| [16:49:00] | riksta: | reggbixby: what are you struggling with, it's easy |
| [16:49:00] | stoffel_: | CyberKnet: headline: 'paris fucks windows'? |
| [16:49:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: apparently |
| [16:49:00] | reggbixby: | Followed Jarod's verbatim. Just doesn't work. /usr/bin/irw notta |
| [16:49:00] | CyberKnet: | stoffel_: "Get Naked, Strip Windows With Paris!" |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | gotta love April Fools |
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| [16:50:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: Too Right! |
| [16:55:00] | weeti: | Is the autotuning with dvb supposed to fill the dvb_pids and dvb_channels (Or am I supposed to do that by hand?) |
| [16:55:00] | reggbixby: | Takin another plunge with this |
| [16:55:00] | reggbixby: | Apr 1 08:53:24 MYTH kernel: lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 |
| [16:55:00] | reggbixby: | Apr 1 08:53:24 MYTH modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting bttv (/lib/modules/2.6.10–1.770_14.rhfc3.atsmp/kernel/drivers/media/video/bttv. ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
| [16:55:00] | reggbixby: | Apr 1 08:53:24 MYTH kernel: bttv: Unknown symbol tveeprom_read |
| [16:55:00] | reggbixby: | Apr 1 08:53:24 MYTH kernel: bttv: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog |
| [16:55:00] | reggbixby: | Apr 1 08:53:25 MYTH kernel: lirc_i2c: chip found @ 0x18 (Hauppauge IR) |
| [16:55:00] | reggbixby: | Apr 1 08:53:25 MYTH kernel: ivtv: i2c attach [client=Hauppauge IR,ok] |
| [16:55:00] | reggbixby: | Apr 1 08:53:25 MYTH kernel: lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin:sample_rate: 10 |
| [16:55:00] | reggbixby: | Apr 1 08:53:46 MYTH lircd 0.7.0[4521]: caught signal |
| [16:55:00] | reggbixby: | Apr 1 08:53:46 MYTH lircd: lircd shutdown succeeded |
| [16:56:00] | reggbixby: | Using PVR-350 dedicated machine |
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| [16:57:00] | weeti: | regbixxy, i think you should take and recompile your kernel to get rid of those unkown symbols. |
| [16:57:00] | ** Beirdo points reggbixby at http://pastebin.ca ** | |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | thou shalt not flood |
| [16:59:00] | reggbixby: | I have been following Jarod's web to the letter and ATrpms stable. Would have thought this would be fairly straight forward install. |
| [17:00:00] | CyberKnet: | thou still shalt not flood |
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| [17:01:00] | weeti: | reggbixby, well, you should really consider compiling your own kernel. it makes perfect sense when you use your machine for something specific purpose.. |
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| [17:09:00] | reggbixby: | weeti:Compile for what? I don't know anything about lirc. You say resolve the symbols. How? |
| [17:10:00] | _johnp: | GreyFoxx, thanks. |
| [17:11:00] | weeti: | have you ever compiled a kernel? |
| [17:11:00] | reggbixby: | yes |
| [17:11:00] | reggbixby: | have source tree established so I could compile ndiswrapper into this kernel |
| [17:11:00] | weeti: | reggbixby: and you notice that your problem is not lirc-related but bttv-related? |
| [17:12:00] | reggbixby: | Just don't know what to do about this. Don't normally run a customized kernel |
| [17:12:00] | jams: | UGGH stupid person gives me his laptop to swap out memory AFTER he strips the screw head |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:14:00] | laga: | a non-techie friend of mine got internet access last week. he's been asking me silly questions since then |
| [17:14:00] | jams: | 3 out of 4 |
| [17:14:00] | laga: | and now he's a bit pissed off because i told him to RTFM ;) |
| [17:14:00] | laga: | jams: hehe. good luck |
| [17:14:00] | jams: | i'm just going to drill'em out |
| [17:15:00] | stoffel: | laga: send him into an irc channel ;) |
| [17:15:00] | weeti: | well you're kernel doesn't export the tveeprom_read. I would just download latest 2.6-series kernel and use it. |
| [17:15:00] | laga: | yeah, gaffa tape should fix it then ;) |
| [17:15:00] | laga: | stoffel: never mind |
| [17:15:00] | laga: | stoffel: he can already reach me over ICQ ;) |
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| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | laga: well done :) |
| [17:17:00] | reggbixby: | Wouldn't you think ATrpms latest kernel would have taken into account all the modules necessary for the PVR-350? I mean that's a pretty base card for this project and a lot of what's out there is geared towards that card |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | RTFM is such a fun tool |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | reggbixby: he has the modules available |
| [17:18:00] | Ivan_Alias``: | does anyone have a patched kernel module for Fedora creo 3 and he ati_remote? |
| [17:18:00] | Ivan_Alias``: | to make all the buttons work? |
| [17:18:00] | laga: | Beirdo: hehe |
| [17:22:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, who are those companies that makes good cables? it's starts with trib****** |
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| [17:26:00] | reggbixby: | Thanks to those that responded. Off to google land. Have a great weekend everyone :-) |
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| [17:27:00] | kramman: | it is my understanding that the hauppauge pvr 500 has a "decoder", but there is no actual hardware on the card that allows you to connect your tv to it for viewing. Is that correct? |
| [17:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think that's some of the old 250's |
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| [17:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | The Freestyles had the same encoder/decoder as the 350's but it wasn't connected to anything |
| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | heya, GreyFoxx |
| [17:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have one of the freestyles and it does have the decoder. You just can't use it for anything |
| [17:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yo |
| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | http://trac.beirdo.ca/ :) |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | trac rules |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | and this weekend's backup run will be huge :) |
| [17:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | got 2 new vservers getting backed up ;) |
| [17:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yay, I've got 2 weeks to get ready for a trip to Belgium where noone can tell me for sure what I have to accomplish while I'm there |
| [17:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | and what little I know is a hell of a lot |
| [17:29:00] | kramman: | can someone tell me what "with a dbx-TV stereo decoder" actually means in reference to the hauppauge pvr 500? |
| [17:30:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: you might want to take a look at this: http://dot.kde.org/1112318366/ |
| [17:30:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: april fools, but has grain of truth in it..... |
| [17:30:00] | stoffel: | GreyFoxx: at least the beer is nice there |
| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | bitkeeper sucks |
| [17:30:00] | mchou: | it doesn't suck as badly as svn :) |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | sure it does |
| [17:31:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2005-02/0897.shtml |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | the license agreement makes it so |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | so what? |
| [17:31:00] | jams: | woo hoo christmas gifts from mom just arrived |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | first off, that's cvs2svn, not svn |
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| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | secondly, it's using https: so the problem could be apache |
| [17:32:00] | mchou: | no, svn crashed :) |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | third: remotely mass importing is asking for trouble :) |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | let me guess... |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | they were using BDB, not fsfs |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | berkeley DB is the devil |
| [17:33:00] | mchou: | Beats me what backend they were using. |
| [17:34:00] | mchou: | I doubt if they would be using BDB, though. |
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| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | I will not subject people to bitkeeper |
| [17:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | stoffel: Heh and I don't really drink but I'll make a point of trying it :) |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | it might make sense for something as large as KDE, or the linux kernel |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | but not a chance in hell it's useful for smaller projects, and their licensing stuff is shite |
| [17:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm trying to think of anything I might wanna buy while over there and bring home heh |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | chocolate :) |
| [17:36:00] | stoffel: | waffles |
| [17:36:00] | stoffel: | fries |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | whores |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | oh wait |
| [17:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was thinking more in the line fo toys |
| [17:36:00] | laga: | whores are toys, huh? |
| [17:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Maybe a rental heh |
| [17:36:00] | stoffel: | lol |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, rental whores are a better plan |
| [17:37:00] | laga: | umm.. |
| [17:37:00] | laga: | well, technically seen are all women toys...but whores are more affordable |
| [17:37:00] | ** laga should shut the fsck up now ** | |
| [17:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [17:37:00] | ** Beirdo hands laga a shovel to dig that hole faster ** | |
| [17:37:00] | ** kormoc thinks laga is single. ** | |
| [17:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | I need to look up on a map just where Belgium is in relation to other countries in Europe. I've never been over that way |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: between Netherlands and France |
| [17:38:00] | stoffel: | GreyFoxx: it's east of texas ;) |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | on the coast |
| [17:38:00] | laga: | kormoc: you're right! how can you know? ;) |
| [17:38:00] | mchou: | women thinks guys are toys :) |
| [17:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cool |
| [17:39:00] | laga: | mchou: some do, indeed. and those are inpensive. ;) |
| [17:39:00] | mchou: | or better yet, drones :) |
| [17:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Guys think women are toys for sex, Women thing guys are toys to be mentally played with |
| [17:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Of course I'm slightly offtopic here :)( |
| [17:39:00] | Beirdo: | Belgium's neighbours... Netherlands, France, Luxembourg, Germany |
| [17:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, found a good map |
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| [17:40:00] | ** Beirdo didn't need a map. hehe ** | |
| [17:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm not sure what kind of extra time I'll have so I don't know if I'll have time to go travelling |
| [17:40:00] | Beirdo: | you'll be in Brussels, I'd assume? |
| [17:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.sitesatlas.com/Maps/Maps/Europe.htm |
| [17:40:00] | mchou: | mfscking hoary livecd md5sum doesn't match, d/l twice now. |
| [17:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've only been told the country. |
| [17:40:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | likely Brussels |
| [17:41:00] | stoffel: | must be a top-secret mission then |
| [17:41:00] | hadeees: | how well does vga to component work |
| [17:41:00] | hadeees: | i mean could i play a video game on my hdtv |
| [17:41:00] | hadeees: | you think |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: lots of WWI history in Belgium |
| [17:42:00] | hadeees: | WWI was the stuipest war ever |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | not really |
| [17:42:00] | hadeees: | atleast WWII they were fighting for something |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | WWII was the continuation of WWI |
| [17:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, a whois of their domain shows brussels. So that's likely where |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [17:42:00] | hadeees: | Beirdo, it was a snowball of armistice packs |
| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | anyways. WWI is part of our history, and shouldn't be forgotten either :) |
| [17:43:00] | hadeees: | so about my component out do you think i could play video games on a HDTV |
| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | no idea |
| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | buy the gear and try it |
| [17:44:00] | hadeees: | Beirdo, unlike you rice Canadians i can't just go buy things to try out |
| [17:44:00] | hadeees: | rich |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | well then you'll just have to wonder... |
| [17:44:00] | hadeees: | doh i am the worst speller ever |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | take a risk, or sit there and wonder :) |
| [17:44:00] | hadeees: | well i also don't have an hdtv |
| [17:44:00] | hadeees: | a |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | I would expect it should work OK, but without trying it, how would I know? |
| [17:44:00] | Riff-Raff: | what do I need to tweak to get fedora3 automagically create /dev/dvb/... |
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| [17:45:00] | kormoc: | Ey dunno baut that oney haaseg |
| [17:45:00] | Beirdo: | Mmmm. Hoegaarden |
| [17:46:00] | Beirdo: | I wonder if the town is as delightful as their beer? |
| [17:47:00] | stoffel: | GreyFoxx: if you get a rental car, stick to the speed limits |
| [17:49:00] | Beirdo: | if you'll be in the city doing work, I'd imagine a rental car will be a PITA |
| [17:49:00] | Beirdo: | European cities aren't known for plentiful parking |
| [17:57:00] | xris: | lol |
| [17:58:00] | xris: | "parking by braille" |
| [17:58:00] | xris: | just make sure not to have your ebrake on. |
| [17:58:00] | stoffel: | belgians like to 'park by ear' |
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| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | blame it on the beer |
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| [18:13:00] | candc540: | anyone have a workaround to fix stretched and not centered video problem with a pvr-150 |
| [18:14:00] | candc540: | i got sound and video working but video is just stretched and not centered |
| [18:14:00] | candc540: | seems fine if i do a 'cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg' |
| [18:14:00] | candc540: | but just not good in mythtv |
| [18:16:00] | xris: | candc540: afaik, scaling doesn't work on the 150. record at native res (720x480 for ntsc) |
| [18:16:00] | candc540: | so for now, watching live tv in mythtv will be stretched and not centered |
| [18:17:00] | xris: | huh? no, just go and set the res to whatever is standard for your signal |
| [18:17:00] | xris: | 720x480 or 720x576 |
| [18:18:00] | xris: | (did I get that right for PAL?) |
| [18:18:00] | candc540: | don't know but you did for ntsc i believe it is right for PAL |
| [18:19:00] | candc540: | please excuse my stupidness, but how do you set the res to 720x480? |
| [18:19:00] | xris: | under recording profiles, where you set such things. |
| [18:21:00] | candc540: | ok and that should fix my live tv problmes? |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | theoretically. |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | same with recordings. |
| [18:21:00] | visit0r: | ERROR: Unable to create database upgrade lock table: Driver error was [2/3]: |
| [18:21:00] | visit0r: | any idea how to fix this? |
| [18:21:00] | candc540: | ok i'll try that when i get home tonight |
| [18:21:00] | visit0r: | I'm trying to update from CVS of about 2 months ago to today's. |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | visit0r: what version of mysql? |
| [18:21:00] | visit0r: | MYSQL3: Unable to execute query |
| [18:21:00] | visit0r: | Database error was: |
| [18:21:00] | visit0r: | Error writing file './mythconverg/schemalock.frm' (Errcode: 28) |
| [18:22:00] | xris: | candc540: at least yours works. my backend crashes every time I try to watch live tv on my 150 (can record fine, which is really weird) |
| [18:22:00] | visit0r: | mysql Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.10a, for pc-linux-gnu (i386) |
| [18:22:00] | xris: | visit0r: I'm wondering if they added something incompatible with mysql 3. |
| [18:23:00] | visit0r: | hm ok |
| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:23:00] | xris: | I'd suggest asking on the dev list, or carefully on #mythtv |
| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | I doubt it, xris |
| [18:23:00] | xris: | oh? |
| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | I should update tonight and see |
| [18:23:00] | stoffel: | it's mysql 4.1.10a |
| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:23:00] | xris: | stoffel: oh, so I see. |
| [18:23:00] | xris: | visit0r: perhaps you shouldn't be using a beta release of mysql? |
| [18:24:00] | candc540: | xris: mine crashes if i flip through channels really fast, also i'm using ivtv-0.3.2q |
| [18:25:00] | candc540: | btw what is up with the ir blaster that has the capability to control your cable box |
| [18:25:00] | xris: | candc540: what about an ir blaster? |
| [18:26:00] | visit0r: | xris: I'm using debian unstable |
| [18:27:00] | xris: | visit0r: dunno what to say. you're running an unstable version of mysql, and getting database errors. could post on -dev and see if someone replies. |
| [18:28:00] | xris: | but it looks like a mysql error — out of disk, permissions, etc. |
| [18:28:00] | visit0r: | out of disk could be the case |
| [18:28:00] | visit0r: | yeah, that was it. thanks. |
| [18:30:00] | candc540: | xiris: is there a way to get that to control your cable box in linux? Supposedly it's supposted to work in Windows. That's what the documentation that came with the card says anyways. |
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| [18:31:00] | FaithX: | How do you use the key press application for mirc? |
| [18:31:00] | visit0r: | Could not find theme: Iulius |
| [18:31:00] | visit0r: | Couldn't find theme Iulius |
| [18:31:00] | visit0r: | they have removed that theme? |
| [18:31:00] | candc540: | xiris: so can you get full screen livetv after setting resolution to 720x480? |
| [18:31:00] | visit0r: | where is the theme setting to change it manually? |
| [18:31:00] | candc540: | setup -> appearance |
| [18:31:00] | visit0r: | yes but I cannot get there :) |
| [18:31:00] | visit0r: | have to change directly to the setup file/db |
| [18:32:00] | visit0r: | mythfrontend does not start because of missing theme |
| [18:33:00] | candc540: | dunno but i want to find out because i'm sure i'll run into that problem too |
| [18:33:00] | visit0r: | hmm well my problem might be caused by that ood |
| [18:33:00] | visit0r: | I'll check |
| [18:33:00] | xris: | candc540: I can't get any livetv with my pvr-150 |
| [18:34:00] | xris: | candc540: I don't know about the ir blaster that comes with the retail pvr-150, but if it's just a standard ir blaster, it should work with lirc like any other one does. |
| [18:34:00] | xris: | I have a homemade one I use for my Dish box. |
| [18:36:00] | CyberKnet: | the retail pvr-150 comes with an ir blaster? neat. |
| [18:38:00] | visit0r: | candc540: yeah that was it. my bad. |
| [18:38:00] | candc540: | visit0r: glad i could help |
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| [18:47:00] | candc540: | xris: what version of ivtv are you running? you also must have a pvr-150mce |
| [18:48:00] | candc540: | my live tv didn't work at first then i trashed the files in /lib/modules and used the files that were refrenced in the ivtv readme and all worked fine except for the problems with distored video |
| [18:48:00] | xris: | candc540: I haven't had time to play with anything past h or so. |
| [18:49:00] | xris: | my stuff is rather strange, though. it's my master backend that crashes, not the one plugged into the pvr-150. |
| [18:49:00] | candc540: | yeah that is strange |
| [18:49:00] | candc540: | and i was wrong my frontend crashes when i change channels quickly |
| [18:50:00] | candc540: | my frontend and backend are on the same machine though |
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| [18:50:00] | candc540: | shouldn't i be setting up the backend to run when the system starts up? |
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| [18:51:00] | ** CyberKnet cleans out his inbox ** | |
| [18:51:00] | xris: | yeah, theoretically |
| [18:52:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: lucky man. I can't clean out mine. too many notes about mythweb/nuvexport that I have to look at someday. |
| [18:52:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: It's not empty... =P |
| [18:52:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: so how much per-click do you get from those super google keywords. |
| [18:52:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: depends on the ad, sometimes up to a buck and a quarter a click |
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| [18:52:00] | CyberKnet: | but it really does depend on the ad |
| [18:53:00] | CyberKnet: | some of them are hideously low |
| [18:53:00] | xris: | ahh. so those words aren't going for nearly as much as people think they are, then. |
| [18:53:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: true that |
| [18:53:00] | xris: | mine range from nothing to up to $2/click |
| [18:53:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: I head numbers saying "up to a hundred dollars a click" but I haven't seen anything near a dollar fifty |
| [18:53:00] | CyberKnet: | I'd like the $2 / click ... is that the harry potter stuff? |
| [18:53:00] | xris: | no clue |
| [18:53:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [18:54:00] | abarbaccia: | can someone look at my dmesg and tell me what htey think all the output on the bottom is from...im stuck here...http://www.pastebin.com/265777 |
| [18:54:00] | xris: | I did 6 clicks yesterday, and things went up to a little over $2. and then everyone else brought the number up to 20 clicks. the final total for the day was only slightly over $4 |
| [18:54:00] | CyberKnet: | hmmmm |
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| [18:55:00] | xris: | so yeah, no clue |
| [18:55:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | hihi |
| [18:56:00] | crispykormoc: | Mornin |
| [18:56:00] | ** xris pokes kormoc to see if he's really crispy. ** | |
| [18:56:00] | ** CyberKnet goes to see what he had for yesterday ** | |
| [18:57:00] | CyberKnet: | d'oh |
| [18:57:00] | CyberKnet: | wife is logged into the machine at home |
| [18:57:00] | CyberKnet: | maybe I'll lynx it |
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| [18:57:00] | laga: | http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/fundue.shtml <- hehe |
| [18:58:00] | abarbaccia: | i read that the guy who made the CoolWebSearch Adware that infected like half the worlds computers had $300 million in income from the worm |
| [18:58:00] | ** xris prefers the kind that's heated with an actual flame ** | |
| [19:00:00] | CyberKnet: | wow |
| [19:00:00] | CyberKnet: | on tuesday I got $5.54, but on thursday I only got $0.19 |
| [19:00:00] | CyberKnet: | damn |
| [19:00:00] | CyberKnet: | my bad. $0.14 |
| [19:00:00] | CyberKnet: | and that is the sum of 3 clicks |
| [19:01:00] | xris: | I get maybe $2/week average |
| [19:01:00] | Beirdo: | clicky clicky |
| [19:01:00] | CyberKnet: | I've never seen three clicks yeild such an awful total. |
| [19:01:00] | CyberKnet: | gah that's horrific |
| [19:02:00] | xris: | really? I think my worst is 6 clicks for a total of $.09 |
| [19:02:00] | xris: | I've had 2–3 clicks yield zero before. |
| [19:02:00] | CyberKnet: | yeah, that bites too. |
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| [19:07:00] | ** slePP peers at beirdo suspiciously ** | |
| [19:07:00] | ** slePP 's mythtv went a whole night without crashing any of the backends ** | |
| [19:07:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | heh :) |
| [19:07:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | running CVS? |
| [19:07:00] | slePP: | nope |
| [19:07:00] | slePP: | 0.17 |
| [19:08:00] | slePP: | i would test CVS for fun, if there was a nice gentoo ebuild for it :> |
| [19:08:00] | ** slePP == lazy ** | |
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| [19:10:00] | xris: | slePP: you do know that there is one, right? |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | wow |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | no crash? |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | well done |
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| [19:11:00] | slePP: | xris: there is, but the last one i saw was out of date and didn't work on current CVS |
| [19:11:00] | ** Beirdo pokes Cardoe ** | |
| [19:11:00] | CyberKnet: | ew |
| [19:11:00] | CyberKnet: | man |
| [19:11:00] | CyberKnet: | not in public |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | in the ribs, dammit! |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet, you are one dirty ole man :) |
| [19:12:00] | CyberKnet: | I am a dirty young man |
| [19:12:00] | CyberKnet: | and arguably, I am the equivalent of TWO dirty young men. |
| [19:12:00] | CyberKnet: | so nyer |
| [19:13:00] | Cardoe: | yes? |
| [19:13:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | hmm, what are you doing in .17 that crashes it so often? |
| [19:13:00] | Cardoe: | CyberKnet: go play in traffic |
| [19:14:00] | Cardoe: | you sick sick man |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | Cardoe: slePP was bitching about CVS myth and gentoo |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | thought you might wanna hear about it :) |
| [19:14:00] | Cardoe: | slePP: cry me a river |
| [19:14:00] | Cardoe: | how's that for an answer? |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | with respect to it not being there :) |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:14:00] | Cardoe: | I won't support CVS ebuilds |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | my, you're in a good mood :) |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | heh, there is that |
| [19:15:00] | Cardoe: | what I will support are CVS snapshots. |
| [19:15:00] | Cardoe: | if we agree upon a certain date |
| [19:15:00] | Cardoe: | X/Y/2005 |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | you planning on snapshotting at any recent time? |
| [19:15:00] | Cardoe: | I will package that up as an ebuild. |
| [19:15:00] | slePP: | Cardoe: hehe |
| [19:15:00] | slePP: | works for me as an answer |
| [19:15:00] | Cardoe: | I've been so bitch slapped by classes and life |
| [19:15:00] | Cardoe: | I haven't had time. |
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| [19:15:00] | Cardoe: | I wish I did. |
| [19:15:00] | Cardoe: | if you can tell me a day that's good and stable. |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | not a problem :) |
| [19:15:00] | Cardoe: | I'll test it out |
| [19:15:00] | ** CyberKnet wonders how hard it is to grab a copy of the CVS code ** | |
| [19:16:00] | slePP: | sarahemm{SA}: i have no idea. the backends (especially the master), just disappear |
| [19:16:00] | slePP: | CyberKnet: easy :> |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | I'm about 1.5–2 weeks behind on my CVS |
| [19:16:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | weiiiird. |
| [19:16:00] | Cardoe: | CyberKnet: stop fantisizing about poking |
| [19:16:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | i'm about to grab cvs and start hacking on the VBI/CC code. |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | woohoo :) |
| [19:16:00] | CyberKnet: | Cardoe: Hey man, it was your ribs what got poked, not mine. |
| [19:16:00] | ** slePP notes his VBI used to work, and now it doesn't. i think i broke something. ** | |
| [19:16:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | what card(s) slepp? |
| [19:16:00] | slePP: | sarahemm{SA}: PVR-350, PVR-150MCE |
| [19:17:00] | slePP: | it used to work on the 350, dunno if it ever worked on the 150. but it isn't working on playback on the 350 anymore. dunno why |
| [19:17:00] | slePP: | not a big deal, just something of interest. |
| [19:17:00] | slePP: | it shows the ivtv_vbi thread running at about 6% when the box is trying to capture them |
| [19:17:00] | ** CyberKnet is saving his pennies to replace his m179's with a 500 ** | |
| [19:17:00] | ** slePP will sell someone his Genie Zoltrix TV :> ** | |
| [19:17:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | err... |
| [19:18:00] | slePP: | er. Zoltrix Genie TV |
| [19:18:00] | slePP: | $600! |
| [19:18:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | yeah, ivtv doesn't support VBI right now |
| [19:18:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | i'm going to start looking at that eventually... |
| [19:18:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | tasks > time |
| [19:18:00] | slePP: | sarahemm{SA}: but how come it worked before? :> |
| [19:18:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | they broke it at one point, iirc. |
| [19:18:00] | slePP: | it really did.. for the first day or so |
| [19:18:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | and nobody cares enough to fix it |
| [19:18:00] | slePP: | ah, silly driver upgrades |
| [19:18:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | once i have a card to play with i'll try. |
| [19:18:00] | slePP: | yeh, it's not a huge deal to most people. :> |
| [19:18:00] | CyberKnet: | I mean, most closed captioning is crap anyway |
| [19:18:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | *nods* 'tis to me, so i'm going to spend time wokring on it. |
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| [19:19:00] | slePP: | now if only i could get the mythfrontend font sizes on the PVR350's output to not be 1/4" high on a 27" TV |
| [19:19:00] | CyberKnet: | slePP: It's all about dpi |
| [19:19:00] | slePP: | i always thought the full screen text modes of CC were interesting |
| [19:20:00] | slePP: | CyberKnet: i know.. and i set the DPI properly for the screen size (DisplaySize X Y as measured on the tube), and it turned out to be a smaller font than about 3pts |
| [19:20:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | hihi solar_angel :) |
| [19:20:00] | CyberKnet: | slePP: so set it incorrectly =P" |
| [19:20:00] | ** slePP grins ** | |
| [19:20:00] | slePP: | i'm not sure which direction i want to go with that... tell it i have a 13" tv maybe |
| [19:20:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | CyberKnet: oh? i wouldn't agree with that really... |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | slePP: that's not how you set the screensize :) |
| [19:21:00] | slePP: | Beirdo: it is in X :> |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | you have to lie to X to make it do 100DPI |
| [19:21:00] | slePP: | font scaling should take of making it the right size.. but adjusting the fonts in the myth settings, they don't change any (or if they do, not enough to count) |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | regardless of the size of your screen, make it think you have a screen such that it does 100DPI |
| [19:21:00] | visit0r: | hmm mythfronend does not seem to detect the DISPLAY correctly. it thinks that it's on my first monitor even though I started it on my second :/ |
| [19:21:00] | ** slePP gives X a cookie and some wine... .takes it home.... strokes it's soft, flowing hair.... *whispering* i luv you x.... mmm... ** | |
| [19:21:00] | slePP: | is that lying to it? |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [19:22:00] | slePP: | so 720x480.... screen size should be... 183x122 |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | you have to tell it an incorrect screen size (i.e. not the actual size of your screen) |
| [19:23:00] | ** slePP notes the font scaling of 117dpi on his two monitors on the desk work well :> ** | |
| [19:23:00] | slePP: | 2005-04–01 03:28:28.148 Changing from None to None |
| [19:23:00] | slePP: | Illegal instruction |
| [19:23:00] | slePP: | one day i'll find out what gcc did to mythfrontend.. |
| [19:23:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | what hardware? |
| [19:23:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | compile yourself, or binary? |
| [19:23:00] | AranC21: | Beirdo: what happens when you have a 4:3 display and a 16:9 resolution... you can't make the horizontal and vertical DPI the same, AFAIK |
| [19:23:00] | slePP: | dual athlon mp 2100+ |
| [19:24:00] | slePP: | compiled with gentoo, -march=athlon-mp -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer in the CFLAGS in make.conf |
| [19:24:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | hrm... weird. |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | dunno |
| [19:24:00] | ** sarahemm{SA} 's backend never crashes anymore... used to have problems but lately it's been nice nd stable. ** | |
| [19:24:00] | AranC21: | When I set my DisplaySize to 400x300, which isn't write but I just put it in there, I get a DPI of 81,60 |
| [19:25:00] | stoffel: | slePP: just a guess, but try it with -O2 |
| [19:25:00] | slePP: | aspect of about 4:3. interesting |
| [19:25:00] | slePP: | stoffel: yeh, probably.. i may just redo all of them with -O2, see if that helps the crashing issues |
| [19:25:00] | AranC21: | Basically, I decided I shouldn't have got a 4:3 HDTV... hindsight is twenty twenty |
| [19:25:00] | slePP: | the one on the Via is compiled with -Os, and that seems to work |
| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | I didn;t know you could buy a 4:3 HDTV. I assumed they were all widescreen |
| [19:26:00] | AranC21: | oh no |
| [19:26:00] | AranC21: | plenty of 4:3 options reallly |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | you need to tell it screensize to get 100x100DPI |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | lie to it until it's right |
| [19:26:00] | ** slePP wonders why Qt gets confused by real DPIs ** | |
| [19:26:00] | AranC21: | if I did that, mythtv would think I had a 16:9 display... then everything would be displayed wrong |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | what resolution are you running the display at? |
| [19:27:00] | AranC21: | I'll probably shoot for something close to 100x100 some compromise thereof and see what it looks like |
| [19:27:00] | ** slePP just installs Windows XP MCE ** | |
| [19:27:00] | slePP: | screw this ;> |
| [19:27:00] | AranC21: | 1280x720p |
| [19:27:00] | slePP: | AranC21: you could try: DisplaySize 325 183 |
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| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | on a 4:3 device? why?! |
| [19:28:00] | AranC21: | you have no choice... |
| [19:28:00] | AranC21: | 4:3 HDTV's still only support standard HDTV resolutions |
| [19:28:00] | slePP: | that's interesting |
| [19:28:00] | AranC21: | 1080, 720p |
| [19:28:00] | slePP: | 16:9 on a 4:3 |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | fucked if I know |
| [19:28:00] | Geckofiend: | try DisplaySize 325 182 |
| [19:30:00] | mechou: | man, kubuntu needs some serious work.... |
| [19:30:00] | mechou: | livecd is pretty screwed up. |
| [19:30:00] | AranC21: | GeckoFiend: that displaysize would have mythtv thinking my display was in fact 16:9... |
| [19:31:00] | AranC21: | as far as I can tell, my displaysize has to be in a ratio of 4:3, or mythtv and mplayer get confused |
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| [19:36:00] | Geckofiend: | so you bought a non-widesrceen HDTV? |
| [19:36:00] | CyberKnet: | Geckofiend: Might have been given it. |
| [19:37:00] | CyberKnet: | Or got an amazingly unreal deal |
| [19:37:00] | Geckofiend: | and all myth cares about is dpi and resolution afaik. I could look at the code, but I'm heading to town |
| [19:37:00] | CyberKnet: | I mean, I would get a non-widescreen 32" HDTV if it was only $150 |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | Geckofiend's goin' to town.. :) |
| [19:38:00] | Geckofiend: | Beirdo heh when you live 45min from the closest starbucks and at least 15min from even a walmart that's want you call it |
| [19:38:00] | ** Geckofiend is a country hick ** | |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | gah. :) It must be nice being in the country though |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | got friends down your way in a similar situation |
| [19:39:00] | CyberKnet: | no kidding |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | somewhere outside Columbus. in the country |
| [19:39:00] | Geckofiend: | yeah I have 4.5 acres, I haven't spoken to my closest neighbors in over a year and it's QUIET |
| [19:39:00] | CyberKnet: | but with DSL or cable internet. |
| [19:40:00] | Geckofiend: | Beirdo got a town name? I live "somewhere outside Columbus. in the country" |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | Heh. let me bring up a map, I can't remember offhand |
| [19:40:00] | solar_angel: | the country of spoon? |
| [19:40:00] | Geckofiend: | CyberKnet yeah that's the suck. though DSL should be in this summer, my substation is next |
| [19:40:00] | ** CyberKnet wouldn't mind 15 or 20 acres ** | |
| [19:41:00] | CyberKnet: | my brother has five acres all one behind the next |
| [19:41:00] | CyberKnet: | it doesn't look like that much. |
| [19:41:00] | CyberKnet: | I say if it was 3 times wider... then it would be pretty decent. |
| [19:42:00] | CyberKnet: | or maybe he has four |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [19:42:00] | CyberKnet: | I forget. |
| [19:42:00] | AranC21: | I bought a 4:3 TV for two reasons, I mostly still watch 4:3 material, and when you compare a 4:3 HDTV with a 16:9 of the same price, the amount of usable display area on a 4:3 TV watching 16:9 (letterboxed) is only slightly less than the 16:9 TV of the same price... and when watching 4:3 program on 16:9 TV, there is MUCH less viewable area when watching pillerboxed |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | nothing is ringin a bell, let me check my mailbox :) |
| [19:42:00] | AranC21: | generally anyway |
| [19:43:00] | Geckofiend: | well yeah but as more things move to HDTV more and more will be widescreen |
| [19:43:00] | Geckofiend: | not to mention pretty much every dvd |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [19:43:00] | CyberKnet: | The only reason I want a hdtv is for Halo2 =) |
| [19:43:00] | AranC21: | which is why I wish I would have bought a widescreen :) |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | one cousin is in Newark, OH |
| [19:43:00] | Geckofiend: | I was just curious was all. I've seen them for sale and wondered what the market was for them |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | and says she's 5 miles from her aunt (not related to me) who is my friend :) |
| [19:43:00] | Geckofiend: | Beirdo ahhh the other direction then. |
| [19:43:00] | Geckofiend: | closest town to me is Marysville |
| [19:44:00] | Beirdo: | Ahh |
| [19:44:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, other side |
| [19:44:00] | Geckofiend: | later all |
| [19:44:00] | AranC21: | Geckofiend: I'm just trying to explain my reasoning at the time... however my wife is so impressed with HDTV she wants to buy a much larger widescreen TV, so I can put the 4:3 one upstairs... |
| [19:44:00] | AranC21: | later |
| [19:45:00] | CyberKnet: | AranC21: lucky bastard. My wife actively does not want to buy an HDTV =) |
| [19:46:00] | AranC21: | CyberKnet: she likes CSI and that show looks very cool in HDTV, maybe not "natural" but cool |
| [19:46:00] | AranC21: | that was the clincher I think |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: she'd rather have your company? |
| [19:47:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: I dunno |
| [19:48:00] | CyberKnet: | AranC21: Hmm... how did you get to see CSI in HDTV without buying the set? |
| [19:48:00] | CyberKnet: | mine also loves CSI |
| [19:48:00] | mechou: | when did csi become a chick show? |
| [19:48:00] | mechou: | hehe :) |
| [19:49:00] | CyberKnet: | mechou: It's not a chick show. It's a "smart people" show. unless you're talking about CSI Miami or CSI New York |
| [19:49:00] | solar_angel: | i like CSI. |
| [19:49:00] | ** sarahemm{SA} 's wife (and me) love CSI too :) ** | |
| [19:49:00] | solar_angel: | grissom is hot. :P |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | CSI is OK. |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | it's just a TV show, of course |
| [19:49:00] | ** xris wishes that ffmpeg was faster ** | |
| [19:50:00] | AranC21: | CyberKnet: well, I just went and bought it one night ... not sure how I got away with that one. The relatively inexpensive unit let to the desire for a larger widescreen unit. |
| [19:50:00] | xris: | sarahemm{SA}: so you're not a girl? |
| [19:50:00] | CyberKnet: | AranC21: I think I wouldn't survive the "just went and bought it one night" test. |
| [19:50:00] | mechou: | CyberKnet: CSI is hardly a smart show. It's rather predictable, not to mention has completely no resemblance to reality. |
| [19:50:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: Girls can have wives. |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | not in this country. (unfortunately) |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | well, most of this country, anyway. |
| [19:51:00] | mechou: | in some states it's allowed :) |
| [19:51:00] | AranC21: | mechou: smart is relative, it's fairly smart for prime time network fair |
| [19:51:00] | CyberKnet: | mechou: I'm hardly going to derride your opinion, however I will say tht I dont agree with it. |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | mechou: if by "some" you mean "one" then yes. |
| [19:51:00] | mechou: | I believe it's also legit in CA now. |
| [19:52:00] | CyberKnet: | mechou: CSI Miami is csi for stupid people, and csi new york is csi for depressed people, but csi las vegas is generally quite good quality. |
| [19:52:00] | ** solar_angel loves canada. :P ** | |
| [19:52:00] | Cardoe: | CSI is retarded |
| [19:52:00] | mechou: | hehe :) |
| [19:52:00] | Cardoe: | I don't think CSI people go up and interogate the suspects. |
| [19:52:00] | Cardoe: | They're the lab rats. |
| [19:52:00] | AranC21: | miami is even prettier than vegas, HD wise |
| [19:52:00] | Cardoe: | its the cops that do that. |
| [19:53:00] | AranC21: | on csi, they go in first with guns drawn |
| [19:53:00] | Cardoe: | the cop on the show is just like the minion |
| [19:53:00] | mechou: | CyberKnet: talking about a network show being "smart" is an oxymoron like "military intelligence" |
| [19:53:00] | Cardoe: | CSI people don't have guns in RL |
| [19:53:00] | Cardoe: | mechou: do we have to use the military intel reference? |
| [19:53:00] | mechou: | lol :) |
| [19:53:00] | mechou: | Cardoe: just an analogy..... |
| [19:54:00] | Cardoe: | you want me to make fun of your job? |
| [19:54:00] | ** xris suggests using "jumbo shrimp" instead ** | |
| [19:54:00] | mechou: | Cardoe: you don't even know what my job is :) |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | oh ... dear ... go |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | d |
| [19:55:00] | Cardoe: | mechou: Nope. But I hope for your sake it doesn't involve CyberKnet |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | my brother just wrote "Yeah, but still it get's old fast." |
| [19:55:00] | solar_angel: | what's really funny is that on CSI: NY, the crime scene folks have CSI on their jackets, on Law and Order, they have CSU |
| [19:55:00] | mechou: | Cardoe: huh??? |
| [19:55:00] | riksta: | CyberKnet: did you fix your prob |
| [19:55:00] | solar_angel: | but they're both in the same city :P |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: nope |
| [19:55:00] | Cardoe: | solar_angel: they're actually called CSU in NY |
| [19:55:00] | riksta: | CyberKnet: mine was alsa |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: I dont know that I have the option of OSS on 2.6 |
| [19:56:00] | solar_angel: | Cardoe – that doesn't surprise me. |
| [19:56:00] | riksta: | CyberKnet: use alsa emulation |
| [19:56:00] | Cardoe: | solar_angel: used to remember seeing the cars/vans drive around the city. |
| [19:56:00] | solar_angel: | heh |
| [19:56:00] | Cardoe: | solar_angel: gotta remember, Law & Order is filmed in the city. Some of the places they mention, it's actually filmed there. |
| [19:57:00] | solar_angel: | well yes... |
| [19:57:00] | Cardoe: | last week they mentioned some gas station and then they went there. and it was actually the real place. It's were I used to buy gas all the time. |
| [19:57:00] | solar_angel: | heh |
| [19:57:00] | Cardoe: | Which was kind of cool. |
| [19:57:00] | mechou: | Cardoe: you live in NYC? |
| [19:57:00] | Cardoe: | They also use real cops as extras. |
| [19:57:00] | Cardoe: | mechou: I used to. |
| [19:57:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta use "alsa emulation" with a 2.6 kernel? |
| [19:57:00] | mechou: | Cardoe: so did I :) |
| [19:57:00] | solar_angel: | i found it funnier watching Sue Thomas, FBI and seeing a signature solar-powered-parking-meter, complete with city of Toronto signage, when they're supposed to be in some american city :P |
| [19:57:00] | riksta: | CyberKnet: alsa oss emulation yeah |
| [19:58:00] | solar_angel: | people love filming in Toronto, it's cheap... |
| [19:58:00] | ** sarahemm{SA} nodnods ** | |
| [19:58:00] | solar_angel: | but there's a lot of signature stuff around here. |
| [19:58:00] | mechou: | solar_angel: not anymore, the unions became a PITA :) |
| [19:58:00] | solar_angel: | eh? |
| [19:59:00] | mechou: | solar_angel: the unions are holding out for more $, do intentional things like "delays," "misplaced," "lost", etc. |
| [19:59:00] | solar_angel: | ah |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | solar_angel: they film much of that right outside work |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | just off Adelaide East... |
| [20:00:00] | solar_angel: | heh. |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | walked through their setup many a time |
| [20:00:00] | solar_angel: | cute |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | and NYC cabs around all the time |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | it's pretty funny |
| [20:00:00] | ** sarahemm{SA} nods, we see that around our area too :) ** | |
| [20:01:00] | solar_angel: | heh. Sue Thomas is supposed to be in DC or something. |
| [20:01:00] | solar_angel: | but sometimes they screw up and film stuff that's obviously toronto. |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, the NYC stuff is for other shows, can't remember which |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | sarahemm{SA}: you are only like 10 blocks from me :) |
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| [20:02:00] | solar_angel: | heh |
| [20:03:00] | xris: | kormoc is only about 3 feet from me. |
| [20:03:00] | laga: | xris: throw paper planes at him. |
| [20:03:00] | xris: | I poked him earlier. he didn't look like he appreciated it, though. |
| [20:03:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | Beirdo: *nods* i'm aware :) |
| [20:03:00] | ** crispykormoc was more surprised. ** | |
| [20:04:00] | ** xris has to be nice to his minion so they will give him more. ** | |
| [20:04:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | i was just mentioning that to solar heh... dual-channel chat. |
| [20:04:00] | solar_angel: | heh. |
| [20:04:00] | ** solar_angel reaches over and pets sarahemm{SA}. ** | |
| [20:04:00] | ** xris encourages everyone to set up MUG's (and meetups) ** | |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:05:00] | xris: | except not with the other me, since it confuses people. |
| [20:05:00] | ** sarahemm{SA} purrs ** | |
| [20:05:00] | xris: | Jarod emailed me yesterday asking if he could carpool with me to the portland MUG meeting because I was going. |
| [20:05:00] | mechou: | man, this kubuntu shit stinks. Crashes left and right. I would have expected better out of a debian-based distro. |
| [20:05:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | MythTV Users Group? |
| [20:05:00] | xris: | except that it was the other guy with my name. |
| [20:05:00] | xris: | sarahemm{SA}: yes. |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [20:05:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: hehe |
| [20:06:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | coolies :) |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | I think that a Toronto meetup would be kinda cool |
| [20:06:00] | mechou: | xris: Jarod lives in Portand or what? |
| [20:06:00] | xris: | wonder if the portland group is expecting a dev to show up (well, as much of a dev as I am), and will be disappointed when he's not. |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | we are getting enough people to make it almost worth it |
| [20:06:00] | xris: | mechou: no, he lives up near seattle by me. |
| [20:06:00] | xris: | I want to have one in seattle. |
| [20:07:00] | xris: | just need to figure out how to get organized enough to do it. |
| [20:07:00] | mechou: | xris: nothing wrong with starting one up. :) |
| [20:07:00] | xris: | well, there's a MUG here. just no meetings. |
| [20:07:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | Beirdo: oh? who else? |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | bjohnson for instance |
| [20:07:00] | xris: | http://mythtv.info/moin.cgi/SeattleMUG |
| [20:07:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | ahh cool :) |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | a coworker who ain't here right now |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | and likely a few others here that are lurking, I can't remember |
| [20:10:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | cool :) |
| [20:10:00] | xris: | probably many more on the mailing list. |
| [20:11:00] | xris: | I should post about one for seattle, see if people want to go out for a beer or something. |
| [20:11:00] | riksta: | sup Beirdo |
| [20:11:00] | mechou: | beer and pizza :) |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | not much |
| [20:12:00] | bjohnson: | huh? |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | just another long annoying day |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | bjohnson: was just saying... yer a Torontonian... |
| [20:12:00] | riksta: | hey bjohnson :) |
| [20:12:00] | bjohnson: | well .. a couple of hours from TO |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | close enough :) |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | couple hours?! |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | you'd better not be up in Parry Sound |
| [20:13:00] | bjohnson: | my wife doesn't endorse me getting together with fellow geeks .. she's trying to wean that side of me out of existence |
| [20:13:00] | riksta: | how can you say you are from Toronto if you are 2 HOURS away? :) |
| [20:13:00] | bjohnson: | I don't |
| [20:13:00] | riksta: | thats like saying im from London :) |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | bring her along, she's a mythtv user too, no? |
| [20:14:00] | bjohnson: | 1 hr from London |
| [20:14:00] | solar_angel: | heh |
| [20:14:00] | bjohnson: | no |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | you out by KW then I take it |
| [20:14:00] | solar_angel: | my wife likes my geek side. |
| [20:14:00] | bjohnson: | 45 minutes from KW |
| [20:14:00] | riksta: | i'm like 2 1/2 hours from london (if i drive very fast ;) |
| [20:14:00] | AranC21: | bjohnson: either she doesn't like TV or you've failed |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | wow. |
| [20:14:00] | ** bjohnson thinks they're trying to pinpoint my location ** | |
| [20:14:00] | riksta: | bjohnson: Beirdo really works for the RIAA |
| [20:14:00] | bjohnson: | she watches the Bev system |
| [20:14:00] | riksta: | be careful |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | no I don't |
| [20:15:00] | Beirdo: | silly |
| [20:15:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | solar_angel: LOL. that's an understatement :) |
| [20:15:00] | mechou: | Bev System?? What's that? |
| [20:15:00] | ** solar_angel pets sarahemm{SA} ** | |
| [20:15:00] | bjohnson: | Bell Expressvue |
| [20:15:00] | ** sarahemm{SA} purrs ** | |
| [20:15:00] | ** laga coughs ** | |
| [20:15:00] | bjohnson: | I was trying to use mythtv so I could watch tv on my laptop at home while doing other computer stuff |
| [20:16:00] | bjohnson: | I've never tried to feed it to a tv |
| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | my next guess would be Woodstock :) |
| [20:16:00] | bjohnson: | he IS trying to find me |
| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | been a while since I was out that far on the 401 |
| [20:16:00] | bjohnson: | 'about 30 mins from Woodstock |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | Brantford :) |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:17:00] | bjohnson: | north of London and west of KW |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | oh |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | St Mary's then |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | driven by there a few times |
| [20:17:00] | bjohnson: | Stratford |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | Ah. |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | nice little town. |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | good for school road trips. |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, TO would be a stretch from there for a meetup, that's for sure |
| [20:18:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | alright, so it's putting the CC *into* the NUV wrong, as opposed to reading it out wrong... |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | sarahemm{SA} is making progress :) |
| [20:19:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | trying.. :) |
| [20:19:00] | solar_angel: | i'm not surprised by that. |
| [20:19:00] | ** solar_angel pets sarah. ** | |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | don't let the petting get outta hand, she needs to concentrate on her code :) |
| [20:24:00] | ** solar_angel shrugs ** | |
| [20:24:00] | solar_angel: | sarah can always get back to the code when i'm done with her |
| [20:24:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | *nodnods* |
| [20:24:00] | Beirdo: | there is that |
| [20:24:00] | ** sarahemm{SA} is waiting for the newest CVS to co anyway ** | |
| [20:29:00] | ** xris is hoping that there will be no more cvs and isaac switches to svn+trac ** | |
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| [20:30:00] | riksta: | he wont |
| [20:30:00] | xris: | riksta: oh? |
| [20:30:00] | olololo: | May I be a mythtv user? |
| [20:30:00] | riksta: | olololo: no! most certainly not! |
| [20:30:00] | olololo: | Prease, I run linx |
| [20:30:00] | xris: | he's switching to something else.. be it svn, arch or bitkeeper. |
| [20:30:00] | riksta: | i read on the list he was sticking with cvs |
| [20:31:00] | mechou: | xris: who is? |
| [20:31:00] | ** xris designates this as a no-Engrish zone. ** | |
| [20:31:00] | olololo: | may I use mythtv gentoo linux? |
| [20:31:00] | riksta: | olololo: yes |
| [20:31:00] | xris: | riksta: ah. there were comments on the private developer list about it, but I must have missed the public discussion about it. |
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| [20:31:00] | BladE^: | hi |
| [20:32:00] | riksta: | xris: hmm well...i'm just saying what i read :) |
| [20:32:00] | riksta: | a week or so back |
| [20:32:00] | BladE^: | can someone help me? What should I put on "video device" ? |
| [20:32:00] | olololo: | thnk u for the mythtv with gentoo linx |
| [20:32:00] | xris: | might be. I haven't heard anything about it in many days. |
| [20:32:00] | riksta: | olololo: emerge mythtv |
| [20:32:00] | riksta: | olololo: and ... it's LINUX |
| [20:32:00] | xris: | perhaps, then, I'll have to pull nuvexport out of mythtv CVS so I can run subversion. |
| [20:32:00] | olololo: | yes i mean linux |
| [20:32:00] | olololo: | good for tv when extra computer |
| [20:33:00] | riksta: | congraturations!! |
| [20:33:00] | mechou: | xris: who are you tralking about, switching SCM? |
| [20:33:00] | olololo: | projector to mythtv? |
| [20:33:00] | mechou: | talking* |
| [20:33:00] | xris: | mechou: there was talk about it among mythtv devs. |
| [20:33:00] | riksta: | olololo: yes, with tv-out |
| [20:33:00] | mechou: | xris: svn is broken. Dont use that :) |
| [20:33:00] | BladE^: | I dont understand which devices are the Video Device and VBI Device on capture card setup menu |
| [20:33:00] | BladE^: | under linux |
| [20:33:00] | xris: | but apparently nothing came of that. |
| [20:33:00] | olololo: | yes svido cable out on video card |
| [20:33:00] | BladE^: | anyone can help? |
| [20:34:00] | xris: | svn is broken? it can't be more broken than cvs. |
| [20:34:00] | stoffel: | BladE^: oh, it's the devices for your tuner card |
| [20:34:00] | BladE^: | uhmm |
| [20:34:00] | olololo: | I use remote? |
| [20:34:00] | BladE^: | how can I found these devs? |
| [20:34:00] | ** crispykormoc blinks ** | |
| [20:34:00] | mechou: | xris: http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2005-02/0897.shtml |
| [20:35:00] | BladE^: | videodev 8320 2 cx8800,cx88xx |
| [20:35:00] | stoffel: | BladE^: for a single tuner card i'd guess video will be /dev/video0 and vbi /dev/vbi0 |
| [20:35:00] | BladE^: | thisis the module |
| [20:35:00] | BladE^: | ah thnx |
| [20:35:00] | olololo: | Gentoo linux mythtv remote? |
| [20:35:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | hmm... i need a second myth box for devel stuff. i should pick up another cheap bttv and stick it in my workbench PC... |
| [20:35:00] | mechou: | xris: that's much more broken than cvs..... |
| [20:35:00] | BladE^: | stoffel: I cant find such dev's |
| [20:35:00] | solar_angel: | heh |
| [20:35:00] | ** solar_angel pets sarahemm{SA} ** | |
| [20:35:00] | BladE^: | maybe I havent load the right modules.. |
| [20:36:00] | solar_angel: | or you could pick up the PVR-500 or whatever it's called |
| [20:36:00] | xris: | mechou: dunno what to say. I like it WAY more than CVS. |
| [20:36:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | solar_angel: our main backend is in use like 24/7 so it's hard to do any development... |
| [20:36:00] | BladE^: | stoffel: does these devices work under udev? |
| [20:36:00] | solar_angel: | and stick *that* into your development box |
| [20:36:00] | olololo: | remote with mythtv with gentoo linux? |
| [20:36:00] | stoffel: | sorry, i never used udev, BladE^ |
| [20:36:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | solar_angel: true. but that'd mean fixing drivers, writing ivtv vbi support, and possibly still fixing myth. |
| [20:36:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | and spending more money than i want to right now... |
| [20:36:00] | BladE^: | stoffel: ah ok |
| [20:36:00] | solar_angel: | heh, true |
| [20:36:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | a bttv card will be like $30 :P |
| [20:36:00] | solar_angel: | ah okay |
| [20:36:00] | xris: | the fact that I can actually delete directories and check in symlinks makes it more than worthwhile. |
| [20:36:00] | olololo: | controller use mythtv gentoo linux? |
| [20:37:00] | xris: | let alone what the addition of trac lets me do. |
| [20:37:00] | mechou: | xris: not if it doesnt work. :) |
| [20:37:00] | olololo: | controller mythtv use remote? |
| [20:37:00] | crispykormoc: | olololo, given you appear to be in the usa, could you at least try to form proper sentences? |
| [20:38:00] | olololo: | sorry my enlish good speak when I write it slow |
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| [20:38:00] | Beirdo: | svn is not broken |
| [20:38:00] | olololo: | It is the remote with gentoo linux on the mythtv? |
| [20:39:00] | olololo: | to change the program on the tv? |
| [20:39:00] | crispykormoc: | olololo, Yes, if your remote is supported, then yes, you can use it with myth tv on linux, gentoo or otherwise. |
| [20:39:00] | olololo: | Very good mythtv, much like the tivo |
| [20:39:00] | olololo: | less money |
| [20:40:00] | crispykormoc: | I have a feeling it will be taking up a large chunk of your time to set it up, keep that in mind. |
| [20:40:00] | olololo: | to setup is hard? |
| [20:40:00] | olololo: | to use gentoo linux mythtv? |
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| [20:41:00] | crispykormoc: | Given what appears to be your level of understanding of Linux and such, yes, I beleive it will be hard for you to do. |
| [20:41:00] | olololo: | the help I get from mythtv-users? |
| [20:42:00] | olololo: | I give webspace for luckey people? |
| [20:42:00] | crispykormoc: | You can get some help from us, yes, but I don't beleive you'll even get gentoo installed without a lot of help. |
| [20:42:00] | olololo: | yes gentoo installed on was windows |
| [20:43:00] | olololo: | now mythtv play and connect remote on tv or projector? |
| [20:43:00] | olololo: | ??? |
| [20:43:00] | crispykormoc: | Do you have a tvtuner card that is supported? |
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| [20:43:00] | olololo: | I have cable on pixelview in computer |
| [20:44:00] | olololo: | watch tv windows, but no mythtv on windows so gentoo linux |
| [20:44:00] | kormoc: | then yes, you can install mythtv and set it up, as for the remote, what remote it is. |
| [20:44:00] | olololo: | is free for use I don't want to pay tivo |
| [20:44:00] | xris: | mechou: which part of "it works great for me" implies that it doesn't work? |
| [20:44:00] | olololo: | It is a good remote from raido shack, work with tv well |
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| [20:45:00] | kormoc: | with the tvcard? |
| [20:45:00] | olololo: | yes |
| [20:45:00] | kormoc: | in linux? |
| [20:45:00] | olololo: | not yet mythtv first than remote |
| [20:45:00] | olololo: | than projector and tv to watch |
| [20:45:00] | mechou: | xris: scm by definition has to work for more than one person. |
| [20:45:00] | BladE^ (~lnx@thes730a-1461.otenet.gr) Quit (".") | |
| [20:45:00] | kormoc: | welp, maybe you'll get it all working right then. |
| [20:46:00] | olololo: | Yes for free |
| [20:46:00] | kormoc: | mechou, it works for me as well! |
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| [20:46:00] | jemarcks: | Can MCE remove comercials like Mythtv? |
| [20:46:00] | xris: | mechou: you obviously don't know what you're talking about. svn has at least 3 different ways to set it up for multiple users. |
| [20:47:00] | olololo: | Mythtv users setup frount or back of mythtv? |
| [20:47:00] | mechou: | xris: refute the link I posted. That's what I mean by "not work" |
| [20:47:00] | olololo: | end in frount than end in back? |
| [20:47:00] | mechou: | xris: read the whole thread if you have to. |
| [20:48:00] | kormoc: | olololo, you should read the mythtv docs on the mythtv website, it goes over all that for you. |
| [20:48:00] | olololo: | yes It very good |
| [20:48:00] | olololo: | say #mythtv-users |
| [20:48:00] | olololo: | new starwars soon, watch starwar movie on mythtv? for friends house? |
| [20:48:00] | xris: | mechou: so one little bug in svnserve and you say it doesn't work? you don't have to use svnserve. |
| [20:49:00] | mechou: | xris: that's hardly a little bug. |
| [20:49:00] | xris: | so, they'll fix it. my point still stands. |
| [20:49:00] | xris: | svnserve is fairly insecure, anyway (passwords stored in plaintext). svn+ssh works great |
| [20:49:00] | mechou: | they'll fix it? it's been over 1.5 months. |
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| [20:49:00] | olololo: | gentoo linux on mytthv important? |
| [20:50:00] | mechou: | xris: the design is borked. |
| [20:50:00] | ** Beirdo dubs mechou the self-appointed expert of everything ** | |
| [20:50:00] | olololo: | mythtv or microsoft media center additon? |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | you sure you aren't a teenager, mechou? |
| [20:51:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, he just never grew up. |
| [20:51:00] | mechou: | heh, don't blame me if you can refute facts :) |
| [20:51:00] | mechou: | cant* |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | I don't see "facts" in your statements :) |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | I see opinion |
| [20:51:00] | olololo: | yes? |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | and whatever |
| [20:51:00] | kormoc: | mechou, just saying that because a project has memory issues with super large projects doesn't seem to mean, to myself at least, that it's fundementally broken. |
| [20:52:00] | riksta: | looks like the latest alsa packages are b0rked |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | and only when used in a specific manner too |
| [20:52:00] | mechou: | kormoc: wow, and you've done an analysis of svn design? |
| [20:52:00] | kormoc: | mechou, have you? |
| [20:53:00] | olololo: | is what I see that gentoo linux with mythtv best? |
| [20:53:00] | olololo: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Setup_MythTV |
| [20:53:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | hrm.. finding bttv cards for sale now isn't as easy as it used to be. |
| [20:53:00] | xris: | afk, lunchtime. |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | olololo: pick a distro you know |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | none is "best" |
| [20:53:00] | mechou: | kormoc: yes I have. At least enough to understand why it's broken. |
| [20:53:00] | olololo: | is on the website for luckey #mythtv-users? |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | ? |
| [20:54:00] | olololo: | yes none best but slackware not mythtv used |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | people run mythtv on slackware, I believe |
| [20:55:00] | olololo: | I try no, I try no, I try no. Go gentoo says those #gentoo now mythtv work with projecter with #mythtv-users? |
| [20:55:00] | olololo: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Setup_MythTV |
| [20:55:00] | olololo: | with the starwars new movie at friends house? |
| [20:56:00] | olololo: | and with remote controller in work. |
| [20:57:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | anyone here using saa7134 chipset cards on linux? |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | olololo: work on getting mythtv working. projector can wait |
| [20:58:00] | olololo: | yes, I work with #mythtv-users getting free mythtv |
| [20:58:00] | olololo: | no porgector |
| [20:59:00] | olololo: | later we install remote? |
| [20:59:00] | olololo: | in mythtv? |
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| [21:02:00] | candc540: | anyone in here use a pvr-150 |
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| [21:02:00] | olololo: | no important question! |
| [21:02:00] | olololo: | Who is "General Error" and why is he reading my disk? |
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| [21:08:00] | olololo: | Good bye #mythtv-users, use gentoo mesg olololo or see http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Setup_MythTV to get free mythtv from tivo! very good mythtv on linux |
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| [21:11:00] | laga|YMMV: | see |
| [21:11:00] | laga|YMMV: | rejoining with a different nick doesnt fool us |
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| [21:12:00] | visit0r: | :) |
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| [21:14:00] | NoeWon: | I not have diffrent nick, I just need the mythtv |
| [21:14:00] | NoeWon: | for linux gentoo is all |
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| [21:15:00] | zamboni: | hello |
| [21:15:00] | zamboni: | anyone here able to use xawtv to Record Im talking about xawtv 4.0 pre latest & greatest |
| [21:15:00] | zamboni: | ?? |
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| [21:17:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | time to go out and buy another tuner, so i can build a backend development box... |
| [21:17:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | bbiab :) |
| [21:18:00] | NoeWon: | use gentoo? |
| [21:19:00] | NoeWon: | for gentoo linux? |
| [21:19:00] | laga|YMMV: | you could try and look for a mythtv community in your native language |
| [21:20:00] | NoeWon: | No people like the mythtv to help another, IRC is for people with good enlish like me. I live in the us and a |
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| [21:20:00] | stoffel: | either he's drunk or on drugs :) |
| [21:20:00] | zamboni: | I wrote like I speak |
| [21:21:00] | NoeWon: | I work at icecream and want mythtv on gentoo linux |
| [21:21:00] | NoeWon: | all day watch movie on porgector |
| [21:21:00] | CyberKnet: | with the bling and the blang and rat a tat tat. You know, the good tv! |
| [21:21:00] | NoeWon: | :0) yes the drugs for mythtv? |
| [21:22:00] | CyberKnet: | Yes! |
| [21:22:00] | NoeWon: | for pixel view? |
| [21:22:00] | CyberKnet: | you are having the drugs for mythtv? |
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| [21:22:00] | CyberKnet: | I am needing the hydroponics |
| [21:22:00] | NoeWon: | I want mythtv drugs for pixelview? |
| [21:22:00] | CyberKnet: | are you "holding" |
| [21:22:00] | stoffel: | yes, but i'm out of stock, sorry |
| [21:22:00] | CyberKnet: | ? |
| [21:22:00] | NoeWon: | modprobe ? |
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| [21:22:00] | zamboni: | hmm anyone use xawtv here aside from mythtv? |
| [21:22:00] | NoeWon: | lspci ....... pixelview |
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| [21:23:00] | laga|YMMV: | NoeWon: and people there actually understand you? |
| [21:23:00] | zamboni: | anyone here use a basic compro PVR card? |
| [21:24:00] | NoeWon: | yes at work I speak very good at work, I type slow when I use two computers. I talk gooder from now |
| [21:25:00] | NoeWon: | to use the mythtv drugs, modprobe '?' |
| [21:25:00] | ** laga|YMMV ponders at using his german -> dialect converter scripts here. ** | |
| [21:25:00] | laga|YMMV: | well. mydhdv is cool. |
| [21:25:00] | laga|YMMV: | *snicker* |
| [21:26:00] | CyberKnet: | NoeWon: English is your most fluent language? |
| [21:26:00] | candc540: | you're still here visit0r? |
| [21:26:00] | NoeWon: | no not best for me |
| [21:27:00] | NoeWon: | I talk in french |
| [21:27:00] | CyberKnet: | NoeWon: What is best for you? |
| [21:27:00] | CyberKnet: | NoeWon: Aha =) |
| [21:27:00] | CyberKnet: | NoeWon: Your usage of the word "drugs" is incorrect |
| [21:27:00] | NoeWon: | I write good english? |
| [21:27:00] | candc540: | wee wee |
| [21:27:00] | NoeWon: | For mythtv |
| [21:27:00] | candc540: | you mean plugins? |
| [21:27:00] | zamboni: | hmmm |
| [21:27:00] | zamboni: | so... |
| [21:27:00] | laga|YMMV: | NoeWon: il y a une communite francaise a http://mythtvtalk.com |
| [21:27:00] | NoeWon: | to lsmod? |
| [21:27:00] | CyberKnet: | NoeWon: what word in french? |
| [21:28:00] | NoeWon: | Not for french enlish mythtv |
| [21:28:00] | zamboni: | communitaire ? |
| [21:28:00] | CyberKnet: | NoeWon: ask your question in french |
| [21:28:00] | laga|YMMV: | zamboni: dunno, my french is probably even worse than his english. |
| [21:28:00] | zamboni: | lol |
| [21:28:00] | zamboni: | so no one heres knows jack about the compro line of PVR cards? |
| [21:28:00] | laga|YMMV: | NoeWon: well, ask in french. |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | Where's Coume? |
| [21:28:00] | candc540: | i dont |
| [21:28:00] | NoeWon: | Ok, what if words don't be the same? |
| [21:28:00] | CyberKnet: | |
| [21:29:00] | candc540: | then we use google language tools :) |
| [21:29:00] | zamboni: | NoeWon bablefish will always help |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | just put it in French |
| [21:29:00] | zamboni: | esta noche cervesa con chicks |
| [21:29:00] | zamboni: | esta noche cervesa con chickas |
| [21:29:00] | NoeWon: | Je veux obtenir le mythtv allant sur le linux de gentoo |
| [21:30:00] | candc540: | wow so all i have to do in here to get some help is talk really bad english? |
| [21:30:00] | CyberKnet: | |
| [21:30:00] | stoffel: | candc540: lol |
| [21:30:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, what table can I find the filenames of the recorded programs in mythconverg? |
| [21:30:00] | stoffel: | candc540: yeah, just play stupid |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | defaultro: you can't |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | the filename is taken from chanid_starttime_endtime.nuv |
| [21:31:00] | NoeWon: | essai jusqu'ici ? J'ai juste obtenu le gentoo allant et maintenant je tire pour le mythtv installe |
| [21:31:00] | candc540: | someone helping me please i am from us graduate from usc now in home town of india |
| [21:31:00] | defaultro: | oh |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | there the fields chanid, starttime, endtime are from recorded table |
| [21:31:00] | defaultro: | yeah, im looking at it now |
| [21:31:00] | laga|YMMV: | candc540: i've been doing that for over a year here and it didn't help. |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | NoeWon: emerge mythtv |
| [21:31:00] | defaultro: | i screwed up my tables |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | I think |
| [21:32:00] | CyberKnet: | NoeWon: alors vous recherchez un ebuild, correct? |
| [21:32:00] | candc540: | well it was worth a try |
| [21:32:00] | defaultro: | i restored back my march 28 db |
| [21:32:00] | laga|YMMV: | NoeWon: make sure to get the latest and greatest. ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -pv mythtv |
| [21:32:00] | defaultro: | so im seeing entries in frontend that i've already deleted |
| [21:32:00] | defaultro: | im deleting them manually |
| [21:32:00] | NoeWon: | Quand je fais qu'il ne calcule pas des dependencys bien |
| [21:32:00] | defaultro: | in recorded table |
| [21:32:00] | candc540: | oh i forgot this is logged hahah |
| [21:33:00] | CyberKnet: | NoeWon would like to know where they can locate a guide for installing mythtv on Gentoo, best if it was in french. The ebuild is not calculating dependancies well. |
| [21:33:00] | laga|YMMV: | NoeWon: it should. |
| [21:33:00] | defaultro: | but later, I will have to reread the .nuv using perl tool |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | I know what he said :) |
| [21:33:00] | candc540: | watch what you say this room is monitored for quality assurance |
| [21:33:00] | NoeWon: | |
| [21:33:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: You know french? |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | I can't speak it well, but I studied it for 10 years |
| [21:33:00] | NoeWon: | Yes he talk good french |
| [21:33:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: then why I am I using google language tools instead of you? |
| [21:33:00] | NoeWon: | A little chop but very understanding |
| [21:33:00] | laga|YMMV: | Beirdo: same for me. |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | because you need to, CyberKnet |
| [21:34:00] | laga|YMMV: | Beirdo: but i understand a lot |
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| [21:34:00] | candc540: | this is great |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | NoeWon: you should be able to use the line laga put in |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -pv mythtv |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | that gives a list of what it will install, but will not install |
| [21:35:00] | candc540: | ok so when is someone going to fix the pvr-150 scaling problem? |
| [21:35:00] | NoeWon: | |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | then go to www.pastebin.ca, and paste the output there |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | NoeWon: if you want to use MCE, that's your choice |
| [21:36:00] | laga|YMMV: | NoeWon: well, the USA claims to be a free country with free citizens. do whatever floats your boat. |
| [21:36:00] | CyberKnet: | |
| [21:37:00] | candc540: | ahhh all this french is making my head spin |
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| [21:37:00] | CyberKnet: | |
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| [21:37:00] | stoffel: | ich habe ein Problem mit mythtv, HDTV wird nicht angezeigt. Hilfe!!!! |
| [21:37:00] | NoeWon: | |
| [21:38:00] | candc540: | i just want someone to fix my stretched not centered video when watching livetv with a pvr-150 |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | stoffel: silly boy :) |
| [21:38:00] | CyberKnet: | |
| [21:38:00] | stoffel: | Beirdo: wenn alle franzoesisch schreiben, schreibe ich eben auf deutsch :) |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | candc540: then do as you were told, and capture at full resolution |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | stoffel: I grok German a LOT worse than French :) |
| [21:39:00] | stoffel: | well, today is native language day! everybody type in whatever language he prefers |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | Woohoo! time for some profanity |
| [21:40:00] | laga|YMMV: | yep |
| [21:40:00] | candc540: | yeah i'll try that |
| [21:40:00] | candc540: | but can't till later |
| [21:40:00] | laga|YMMV: | stoffel: even better: diaelect day. |
| [21:40:00] | laga|YMMV: | dialect* |
| [21:40:00] | laga|YMMV: | *g* |
| [21:40:00] | stoffel: | laga|YMMV: hehe, as you wish |
| [21:41:00] | candc540: | what happened to our french friend? |
| [21:41:00] | CyberKnet: | he is still here, just not saying anything |
| [21:41:00] | CyberKnet: | I asked him to consider fedora core instead of gentoo |
| [21:42:00] | CyberKnet: | likely they are looking up fedora core now |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | Gentoo's easy enough |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | if he got gentoo up and running |
| [21:42:00] | candc540: | so to recap... capture at full resolution by going to setup -> tv ? |
| [21:42:00] | CyberKnet: | Supposedly, but he cant get it to work, and no gentoo user here was willing to help. |
| [21:42:00] | candc540: | i personally like debian |
| [21:42:00] | candc540: | worked for me |
| [21:43:00] | laga|YMMV: | and it doesnt work for me. |
| [21:43:00] | laga|YMMV: | *sigh* |
| [21:43:00] | NoeWon (~blodak@pcp656945pcs.micske01.fl.comcast.net) Quit () | |
| [21:43:00] | laga|YMMV: | well, gotta look into it tomorrow. |
| [21:43:00] | candc540: | why didn't it work for you? |
| [21:43:00] | stoffel: | hm, T+55minutes |
| [21:44:00] | candc540: | i just wish that unstable had gnome 2.10 then i'd be happy cause i can't stand ubuntu |
| [21:44:00] | laga|YMMV: | candc540: segfaults on start. even when i rebuilt mdz's debs. |
| [21:44:00] | candc540: | that sucks |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: if he got Gentoo running, adding mythtv should be easy |
| [21:44:00] | laga|YMMV: | candc540: and now it wont start due to a different error, but it's likely that it's just me being stupid. |
| [21:44:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: I agree |
| [21:44:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: I do not debate it |
| [21:45:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: But I couldn't help him do it. |
| [21:45:00] | candc540: | so how should a working mythtv box with frontend and backend on same system work |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | we gave him the command to run |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | twice |
| [21:45:00] | candc540: | should backend run at system startup and frontend also? |
| [21:45:00] | stoffel: | just fine, candc540 |
| [21:45:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [21:46:00] | stoffel: | candc540: backend yes, frontend on demand usually, or autom. when X starts |
| [21:46:00] | candc540: | if you gave him the command twice and he didn't run it then there's not much hope for him |
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| [21:47:00] | candc540: | so just add a startup script to the /etc/init.d for the backend and start frontend whenever i need to |
| [21:48:00] | candc540: | so if i understand this the backend is what does all of the recording and the frontend is just for watching what you recorded and for setting up recording times etc |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | correct |
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| [21:49:00] | candc540: | anyone ever had any luck with a snapstream firefly remote |
| [21:49:00] | candc540: | i got one the other day, but i think i'm going to return it it's basically based off of the x10 remote i think |
| [21:50:00] | defaultro: | Beirdo, what is your tip when running the rebuild database? It's because, I don't know what the contents of the file are during the run |
| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | huh? |
| [21:51:00] | defaultro: | coz I ran it about a month ago, and it worked well. However, i don't know what titles to put since it finds the file based on .nuv |
| [21:51:00] | defaultro: | because we cannot see the recording |
| [21:52:00] | defaultro: | sorry, im talking about myth.rebuilddatabase.pl in contrib |
| [21:52:00] | Beirdo: | never used it |
| [21:52:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
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| [21:54:00] | candc540: | who in here hates reading docs? |
| [21:54:00] | laga|YMMV: | <- |
| [21:54:00] | candc540: | i especially do because i write them for a living so i hate to read |
| [21:54:00] | laga|YMMV: | necessary evil ;) |
| [21:55:00] | laga|YMMV: | i sometimes write them. when i feel like it. :) |
| [21:55:00] | Cromz (~ross@CPE-70-92-136-47.mn.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [21:55:00] | candc540: | yeah thank goodness for irc and people that don't mind answering questions that are in readme and such |
| [21:55:00] | laga|YMMV: | candc540: btw. RTFM. |
| [21:55:00] | laga|YMMV: | :> |
| [21:56:00] | candc540: | ;) |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | we do mind answering crap that's documented... much of the time |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | RTFM, *then* ask in IRC |
| [21:57:00] | candc540: | problem is that i may RTFM but i skim through it and miss the important parts most of the time |
| [21:58:00] | stoffel: | hehe, a guy from 'friends' acting as a tough sergeant |
| [22:00:00] | laga|YMMV: | stoffel: you actually watch "friends"? |
| [22:00:00] | stoffel: | i did sometimes, yes |
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| [22:02:00] | laga|YMMV: | o_O |
| [22:02:00] | bjohnson: | mmm .. Jenifer Aniston |
| [22:03:00] | xris: | http://undergoos.com |
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| [22:05:00] | stoffel: | i like the 'never forget' ;) |
| [22:05:00] | xris: | stoffel: yes. |
| [22:06:00] | stoffel: | hmpf, transcode is down to 4.82 fps |
| [22:06:00] | captainfun: | hey... |
| [22:07:00] | captainfun: | if someone could help me for a second, i would really appreciate it.. |
| [22:07:00] | laga|YMMV: | stoffel: that's really fast |
| [22:07:00] | captainfun: | i was having problems getting lirc to work, so i built a new kernel... |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | lol, check out advanced search |
| [22:07:00] | captainfun: | and now when i try "modprobe lirc_i2c"... |
| [22:07:00] | captainfun: | i get... |
| [22:08:00] | captainfun: | FATAL: Error running install command for lirc_i2c |
| [22:08:00] | captainfun: | and dmesg give me |
| [22:08:00] | captainfun: | gives me |
| [22:08:00] | captainfun: | lirc_i2c: version magic '2.6.9-prep 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4' should be '2.6.11.6 686 REGPARM gcc-3.4' |
| [22:08:00] | CyberKnet: | I swear someone asked that the other day |
| [22:08:00] | captainfun: | it looks like something was built under the wrong kernel |
| [22:08:00] | captainfun: | any ideas? |
| [22:09:00] | captainfun: | i did rebuild lirc with the new kernel |
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| [22:11:00] | captainfun: | CyberKnet: were you talking about my problem? |
| [22:12:00] | CyberKnet: | captainfun: yes |
| [22:12:00] | CyberKnet: | captainfun: I did not see the answer though |
| [22:12:00] | captainfun: | ah |
| [22:12:00] | CyberKnet: | I suspect they needed to recompile their lirc module though |
| [22:12:00] | CyberKnet: | and you should do the same. |
| [22:13:00] | captainfun: | i did that |
| [22:13:00] | CyberKnet: | then your kernel config file may not be accurate |
| [22:13:00] | captainfun: | i think i might have different versions running around |
| [22:13:00] | CyberKnet: | because the version numbers do not match |
| [22:13:00] | CyberKnet: | and that's about as far as I am going sorry. |
| [22:13:00] | captainfun: | thanks |
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| [22:18:00] | CyberKnet: | Zoot Suit Riot |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | Gah |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | I'm still secondary on-call |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | fug |
| [22:19:00] | candc540: | i'm tired |
| [22:19:00] | CyberKnet: | I'm gassy |
| [22:19:00] | candc540: | brb running to the printer to get a manual to read |
| [22:19:00] | CyberKnet: | and let me tell you, it is not pleasant. |
| [22:19:00] | CyberKnet: | luckily I dont live on a cube farm |
| [22:19:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [22:20:00] | Beirdo: | I do, but that doesn't stop me from raising the occasional chemical warfare attack |
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| [22:21:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [22:22:00] | candc540: | lol |
| [22:22:00] | candc540: | i live in a cube farm |
| [22:22:00] | candc540: | it sucks |
| [22:22:00] | CyberKnet: | I share a hard office with one other person. |
| [22:22:00] | CyberKnet: | they are not here today. |
| [22:22:00] | CyberKnet: | lucky for them. |
| [22:22:00] | Beirdo: | spread the wealth |
| [22:23:00] | CyberKnet: | one time they came bac from lunch and were like "Wow, somebody must have been cooking something BAD in the breakroom... what is that, fish? |
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| [22:23:00] | CyberKnet: | I was like "Uh.. yeah, I wasn't paying attention... must be" |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [22:23:00] | CyberKnet: | It did smell kinda like fish though. |
| [22:23:00] | laga|YMMV: | blech |
| [22:24:00] | CyberKnet: | Which I thought was odd, because I hadn't had any fish recently. |
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| [22:28:00] | ** CyberKnet debates renting a roto-tiller tomorrow ** | |
| [22:28:00] | ** jams wonders where this story is going ** | |
| [22:28:00] | CyberKnet: | what story? |
| [22:28:00] | jams: | your story |
| [22:29:00] | CyberKnet: | about the gas, or about the roto-tiller |
| [22:29:00] | jams: | the fish story |
| [22:29:00] | CyberKnet: | oh. that was the end. |
| [22:29:00] | CyberKnet: | I had shrimp last night, but I dont smell any shrimp today. |
| [22:32:00] | CyberKnet: | $28 to rent a self propelled rear tine tiller for two hours. |
| [22:32:00] | CyberKnet: | I wonder if I could get it all done in two hours. |
| [22:34:00] | fbansucks: | that's cheap |
| [22:34:00] | CyberKnet: | Yep. |
| [22:34:00] | CyberKnet: | not available till noon tomorrow. |
| [22:34:00] | CyberKnet: | but ... I dont want to get up before noon anyway =) |
| [22:34:00] | fbansucks: | we paid $60 for 2 hours... ended up keeping it for 4 |
| [22:35:00] | CyberKnet: | I can get a front tine one that is not self propelled for $16 for two hours |
| [22:35:00] | CyberKnet: | but I seem to recall someone saying that front tine ones were a lot more work |
| [22:37:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: damn. took me like 8 to do my backyard. |
| [22:37:00] | xris: | rear tine is the way to go |
| [22:37:00] | xris: | glad my dad owns one. :) |
| [22:37:00] | CyberKnet: | my father in law owns one that doesn't work |
| [22:37:00] | CyberKnet: | doesn't help me any =P" |
| [22:38:00] | CyberKnet: | I only have a small area to till (25' x 43') |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | my dad's ancient one broke a couple of years ago, and he bought a new one last summer. |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | I think mine was about twice that, but with hills. and I was tilling up dead grass (to put in a garden) |
| [22:38:00] | jams: | CyberKnet, trust me you dont want the front tine's |
| [22:38:00] | CyberKnet: | I have grass there now, but it is all flat |
| [22:39:00] | CyberKnet: | it's going ot be my vegetable garden. |
| [22:39:00] | CyberKnet: | blakc, black, black soil. Very good for growing things. |
| [22:39:00] | CyberKnet: | used to be a garden about ten years back. |
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| [22:53:00] | toad-six: | hello all – i'm getting an error in mythbackend – "failed to set filter for pid XXX" anybody know how to fix this? |
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| [22:55:00] | CyberKnet: | bbl, have fun |
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| [22:57:00] | candc540: | btw kwirelessmonitor SUCKS |
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| [23:08:00] | toad-six: | hmph – never mind everyone – turns out the microsoft fix worked – rebooted, and all is well.... |
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| [23:32:00] | sarahemm{SA}: | rehi... back with another tuner :) |
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